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Brian
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Norma 7x57R and 8x57JRS, where is it available
      #226701 - 10/03/13 02:02 AM

Finalizing my double rifle purchase and now caliber selection is the issue. ammunition availability is my primary concern. I gave up reloading a while ago but that doesn’t mean I won’t start up again when I have more time.

1. I am a dealer with FFL so purchasing isn’t an issue.
2. I am looking for sources of either 7x57R or 8x57JRS by Norma.
3. availability may determine cal. of rifle I am ordering.
for whatever reason, there doesn’t seem to be any of either for sale anywhere.

I am going to purchase a Chapuis Series 3 and the 30-30 looks very inviting but the 7x57R and 8x57 JRS just have more performance. The rifle will be used primarily for whitetails.

I want off the shelf performance. From what I am gathering form reading posts and reviews, the S&B ammo is okay for practice but the bullets aren’t constructed that well and tend to blow apart.
Thoughts on any of this are appreciated.

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Re: Norma 7x57R and 8x57JRS, where is it available [Re: Brian]
      #226705 - 10/03/13 03:14 AM

In Scandinavia and Europe the 7x57R and 8X57IRS are very popular, 30-30 is a very rare bird.

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Re: Norma 7x57R and 8x57JRS, where is it available [Re: Brian]
      #226713 - 10/03/13 05:39 AM

USA retailers:


Columbia, MO - Midway USA
Mexico, MO - Graf & Sons, Inc.
Montezuma, IA - Sinclair International, Inc.
Oroville, CA - Huntington
Rapid City, SD - Black Hills Shooters Supply



http://www.norma.cc/en/Aterforsaljare/Aterforsaljarsida/?countryid=USA

FWIW - speaking of S&B "regular" bullets - such as SPCE, you'd be surprised how many game is shot here with those - those are non-premium - plain jane - cup&core, rather soft - tho I wouldn't (didn't - my father was shooting those for 2 decades and I started my hunts with those) mind using them according to their capabilities. They lack on hardest quartering shots on big stags, bears and boars - work splendid (without exit on big stags, bears and boars shot on the shoulder) on side shots. Should do just fine on Whitetails IMO.

On the other hand S&B does load Nosler Partition for mentioned calibers - see here:

http://www.sellier-bellot.cz/rifle-ammunition-with-nosler-partition.php?product=31&view=all

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Re: Norma 7x57R and 8x57JRS, where is it available [Re: 93mouse]
      #226714 - 10/03/13 05:47 AM

There's also the Privi partizan line up and based on the 9.3X74R bullets, I think they are also well constructed cup and core. They work fine for moose.

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Re: Norma 7x57R and 8x57JRS, where is it available [Re: AkMike]
      #226718 - 10/03/13 07:35 AM

I have 7x57 and 8x57 magazine rifles. No need for premium projectiles in those either. Conventional contruction projectiles work superbly in mine on all size animals.

For reloading, I believe normal dies will work, you just need a rimmed shell holder.

Don't forget RWS ammo if available in the USA. I have found it to be of superb quality and accuracy. Equal or better than my handloads. You pay $$$ for them though. Cheap if you can afford a double.

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Re: Norma 7x57R and 8x57JRS, where is it available [Re: tophet1]
      #227052 - 16/03/13 04:47 AM

I'm pretty sure I have a set of RCBS 7x57R dies. I think they're kind of scarce, but I could turn loose of them if anyone needs them. I don't know about shooting rimless dimensioned cases in the Rimmed chamber, but these dies did not fully size rimless cases for use in a rimless chamber - the bolt was hard to close, so the Rimmed chamber must be slightly larger at some point.

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Re: Norma 7x57R and 8x57JRS, where is it available [Re: Beveldown]
      #227057 - 16/03/13 07:57 AM

Just for an FYI Kebco (Keb Bush)has a bunch of 6.5X57R,7X57R and the 8X57R stuff in stock now.
It's the S&B brand at $15 a box.

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Re: Norma 7x57R and 8x57JRS, where is it available [Re: AkMike]
      #227099 - 16/03/13 11:10 PM

Beveldown, Please chek your PM's.

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Re: Norma 7x57R and 8x57JRS, where is it available [Re: prairie_ghost]
      #228443 - 10/04/13 04:14 AM

I did and wrote you back.

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Re: Norma 7x57R and 8x57JRS, where is it available [Re: Beveldown]
      #228480 - 10/04/13 12:45 PM

Brain ,
Glad to know you have narrowed your choice . I load my 7X57R with a regular 7X57 dies and a rimmed shell holder. I have done some limited hunting with mine loaded with the 160 grain Nosler . It is a real killer !!!!! Think you will like it . Let me know when you get it .
Robert

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Re: Norma 7x57R and 8x57JRS, where is it available [Re: bwanabobftw]
      #228515 - 11/04/13 07:00 AM

I meant Brian (sorry , I was tired)
Robert

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