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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #393293 - 06/09/25 06:06 AM

Well if you shortened the stock by a good 6-7" it wouldn't look so bad - it would be pretty nifty I reckon!

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #393294 - 06/09/25 10:19 AM



sorry to hear this, was thinking about it to by this rifle as a christmas present for you
but
you don't like it.


I will take it Lancaster. Barrel length is not a concern I hold.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Claydog]
      #393299 - 06/09/25 05:56 PM

The 6.5x68 needs a long barrel to burn all the powder and achieve the velocity it is supposed to get. 26"/650 mm.

Nothing to do with "looks".

And not being worried about barrel length? "Magnum" cartridges with too short barrels? Better just use a 6.5/06 or a 6.5x55.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: NitroX]
      #393300 - 06/09/25 09:02 PM

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The 6.5x68 needs a long barrel to burn all the powder and achieve the velocity it is supposed to get. 26"/650 mm.

Nothing to do with "looks".

And not being worried about barrel length? "Magnum" cartridges with too short barrels? Better just use a 6.5/06 or a 6.5x55.



Yep second that, the 7mm Rem Mag is a hell of a cartridge in a 26" barrel, put it in a 22" barrel might, as well shoot 270 Winchesters and save the money.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: LRF]
      #393301 - 07/09/25 12:07 AM

I had a 22" bl'd .264 Win. M70A. The best it would do with the same 120 XLC I used in the .260 CLC was 3,350fps, but it took 25gr. MORE powder to do it. I rebarrelled that one to .458 Alaskan, another hairbrained wildcat I dreamed up. He'll of a good ctg.but not much better than the .458 Winnie7.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: DarylS]
      #393308 - 07/09/25 02:40 PM

In the "African" model, a 6.5x68, an interesting choice of cartridge for Africa. I'd think it is more of an open plains game choice. Springbok at a distance.

The long stock "African" bushveld rifle styling, was something Harold Wolf discussed in a "Hatari Times" article. He created a similarly stocked rifle. I think in .458 or 9.3? He argued the full stock was a good design for a "jungle" carbine. And a decent wide calibre choice.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Claydog]
      #393315 - 08/09/25 06:22 AM

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sorry to hear this, was thinking about it to by this rifle as a christmas present for you
but
you don't like it.


I will take it Lancaster. Barrel length is not a concern I hold.



Bugger!
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #393371 - 11/09/25 04:50 AM

the teutonic mauser in 404 Jef. sell for only 3643 euro



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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #393402 - 14/09/25 12:28 AM

Was this the auctionet.com rifle? I looked at it briefly but couldn't really tell what it was. It looked like a Type B rifle, but was the B ever offered in 404? I don't think so.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Claydog]
      #393575 - 02/10/25 12:37 AM

this mauser don't lok impressive, its a simple Geco export rifle for sweden in the late 20s , early 30s https://auctionet.com/de/4480775-mauser-...94887-se1901679

but when Husqvarna chose the before unknown to unimportant 9,3x57 out of nothing for the M 46 rifle german gunmaker were quick to sell rifles for this cartridge in sweden also and this is was one of them



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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #393589 - 02/10/25 06:03 AM

Daryl - you'd love this one

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: 93x64mm]
      #393664 - 06/10/25 02:23 AM

8x57 , SN 47396
https://auctionet.com/de/3414413-kugelpi...js-ref-nr-47396














SN 53671, 9x57
https://auctionet.com/de/4531300-kugelpi...57-ref-nr-53671










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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: 93x64mm]
      #393666 - 06/10/25 03:08 AM

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Daryl - you'd love this one



Looks about identical to mine.
Intersurplus in Ontario (I think) has close to or over a hundred of those, for just under $300 to about $450.00, can $$.
In both M98's and M96's.
Also same rifles in 9.3x62 and .30/06.
They are pretty nice hunting rifles, thus I am tempted to purchase another.
My brother now owns the Husky m46 I had. It's his modern moose rifle, 46gr. H4895 and 286gr. Norma Alaskan @2,200fps.


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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: DarylS]
      #393668 - 06/10/25 03:40 AM

no doubt, anyone should have a husqvarna in 9,3x57

here is one with an interessting sight
https://auctionet.com/de/4472297-kulgeva.../images#image_1











this is the Husqvarna M 146 made with a belgian FN action up to 1941/42 when the supply dry out and they go back to the swedish mauser auction in the M 46 A


SN 108889, 9,3x62
https://auctionet.com/de/3414468-kugelge...62-ex-nr-108889

















SN 81366, 10,75x68
https://auctionet.com/de/4472289-kugelpi...-nr-81366-se-nr













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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #393670 - 06/10/25 07:27 AM

Certainly is an unusual sight on the Husqvarna!
Pretty nifty, I do like peep sights though.
Sigh.....I wish, all would look nice in the gun cupboard!

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: 93x64mm]
      #393742 - 11/10/25 05:13 AM

JOHN RIGBY & CO. A .275 RIGBY BOLT-MAGAZINE SPORTING RIFLE, serial no. 5431, for 1931
https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/aucti...9b-b34b00c2cf7e






















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #393745 - 11/10/25 06:44 AM

This one will go a pretty penny, but 36% tax on top of that - bloody horrendous!

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: 93x64mm]
      #393746 - 11/10/25 06:55 AM

don't worry - a lonely .275 rigby will allways find a new boyfriend

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #394060 - 27/10/25 01:08 AM

not common but they exist - M98 in 6,5x54 Mannlicher Schönauer
https://www.waffengebraucht.at/waffen/repetiererbuechse/repetierbuechse--526909











9x57, SN 90485

https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/de/...;currentpos=364












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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Claydog]
      #394099 - 31/10/25 05:49 AM

SN 126579 7x64
https://www.waffenhandelimspessart.de/products/details/4983/


"Numbered. Sharp-edged bare barrel interior. Very good original bluing. Beautiful light stock with minor storage marks. Original Mauser butt plate.

Overall length 103 cm. Barrel length 50 cm. Stock length 37 cm. Weight 2980 grams.

This is a rare piece from the last Mauser period, when weapons were manufactured from remaining stocks at the Mauser factory under French occupation.

The system was originally a standard Mauser model, which was first manufactured for the 7x57 cartridge and then changed to 7x64. I think this was done at the factory. The barrel is from older stocks, as can be seen from the transition of the cartridge chamber. The magazine box is from before World War I, with the lever. The stock still has no metal finish! The chamber stem is type M (Mannlicher Schönauer).

Tested in March 1947 in Ulm. Additionally, a French re-test with AR and crown.

The carbine was probably never fired (strike pad on the breech). Never mounted!"

















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #394100 - 31/10/25 06:19 AM

Didn't France have a ruling no military calibres, hence being made after the war & rechambered in 7x64mm.
Must have been a safe queen, in pristine condition!
I bet as few of us including MrD would love this one to play with this one - brilliant cartridge but hampered by such a short barrel!
Used for follow up work in heavy forest areas?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: 93x64mm]
      #394102 - 31/10/25 07:26 AM

well if made in the chaos of post capitulation nobody ask about this. the mauser factory got then regular visits by allied officiers who bought stuff for their own.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #394103 - 31/10/25 07:56 AM


This is one of the many rifles brought back from Oberndorf after the factory was occupied by French troops.
These Mausers were cobbled together from various parts, and it is certain that this rifle was originally chambered for the 7x57 cartridge.
In the 1960s, a change in French gun regulations (Daladier Decree Law of 1939) classified all firearms firing a "military" cartridge as Category 1 – War Weapons.
Since the 7x57 had been adopted by Spain as early as 1893, all rifles chambered for this cartridge were no longer legally owned or usable for hunting.
Many of these rifles were re-chambered for the 7x64 and obtained proof marks from the Saint-Étienne Proof House.
However, the 7x57's case base diameter is larger than that of the 7x64 Brenneke, resulting in a significant expansion of the 7x64 case during firing.
Another modification was also applied, converting the rifle from 7x57 to 7x57R by changing the bolt head and extractor blade.
We occasionally see one or two of these, but the quality is too often mediocre to be of any real interest.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: DORLEAC]
      #394108 - 01/11/25 07:41 AM

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This is one of the many rifles brought back from Oberndorf after the factory was occupied by French troops.
These Mausers were cobbled together from various parts, and it is certain that this rifle was originally chambered for the 7x57 cartridge.
In the 1960s, a change in French gun regulations (Daladier Decree Law of 1939) classified all firearms firing a "military" cartridge as Category 1 – War Weapons.
Since the 7x57 had been adopted by Spain as early as 1893, all rifles chambered for this cartridge were no longer legally owned or usable for hunting.
Many of these rifles were re-chambered for the 7x64 and obtained proof marks from the Saint-Étienne Proof House.
However, the 7x57's case base diameter is larger than that of the 7x64 Brenneke, resulting in a significant expansion of the 7x64 case during firing.
Another modification was also applied, converting the rifle from 7x57 to 7x57R by changing the bolt head and extractor blade.
We occasionally see one or two of these, but the quality is too often mediocre to be of any real interest.

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MrD,
If the gunsmith took the barrel out to rechamber from 7x57 to 7x64, if he found that the chamber wasn't cut properly, surely he would have shortened the barrel at the chamber end to time exactly 1-2 turns so that the sights are again correct & headspace accordingly for that?
So if done correctly then it would be a fantastic piece indeed!

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: 93x64mm]
      #394118 - 01/11/25 05:12 PM

I think headspace was ok before and after - problem is the chamber for 7x57 is a little bit bigger at the end than the 7x64 reamer will cut of
see the base measurments for both cartridges


7x57



7x64




is not so much but enough that the 7x64 will fireform in an ex 7x57 chamber. what a proof house was maybe tolerating still in the 70s would be today a reason to refuse the rifle. I don't think that there is a risk, its very little and the case will blow out peaceful. many shooter probably never notice this if you don't show it.


to make a 7x57R into a "7x65R" today you take the 7x67R Luyven which was created in 2003 to take this problem.


7x67R


you see it have a bigger base diameter and give a fine clean chamber in a 7x57R barrel

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