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bonanza50
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New 470
      #21539 - 01/12/04 06:01 AM

Hey gang,

Picked my new Chapuis 470 last weekend and have really been going over it. What a massive hunk of gun (11 lbs), makes my merkel .375 double look petite. I really like the locking system, looks like it will last forever. The action is very tight and is hard to open and close. It should loosen up over time. I have greased the metal to metal parts of course! I have the upgraded AAA wood which is beautiful. Metal to wood and metal to metal is superb, I'd have a difficult time understanding what a gun maker could do to improve on it. Which begs the question - why are the English guns so much more expensive?

The test target had a group .82" and slightly high at 50m. I have components on order and will report on how it shoots shortly

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new_guy
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Reged: 10/08/04
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Re: New 470 [Re: bonanza50]
      #21544 - 01/12/04 07:06 AM

Why English guns are so expensive... 1) Name 2) Labor (specifically man-hours that go into building a double & English Labor rates.) 3) Because the Market will Pay the prices!

They keep raising prices, and keep taking more orders... (I'd do the same if it were my business.) CNC machining HAS to have lowered thier cost of building these things, but you can bet that they aren't going to "pass the savings along!"

The thing that makes the Chapuis unique (from a cost perspective) is that they have really been sort of "reverse-engineered" as a gun that can be made largely by machining processes. Rather than taking a traditional English design and replicating it with machines, they came at it from the other perspective, i.e.: "how would a machine build this gun?"

You'll notice for example that the locking system is different - it also contains the ejectors - it's easier to manufacture (by machine) than those typically found on english guns where the ejectors are located in the forearm.

They still have hand-fitting involved, but clearly not as much where more intricate parts have to be fitted.

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bonanza
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Re: New 470 [Re: new_guy]
      #21570 - 02/12/04 01:24 AM

I tend to agree. The gun is highly engineered on the inside, but looks traditional on the outside. I can live with that.

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new_guy
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Re: New 470 [Re: bonanza]
      #21587 - 02/12/04 07:02 AM

especially for the price!

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clark7781
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Re: New 470 [Re: bonanza50]
      #21624 - 03/12/04 01:48 AM

B:

Do you have any pictures of the newest toy? I sure would like to see what they made for you.

Clark

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bonanza
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Re: New 470 [Re: clark7781]
      #21629 - 03/12/04 07:08 AM

I do have pictures, but don't know how to post them.

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