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Flatlander
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DWM 1898 Sporter
      #214492 - 13/08/12 10:47 AM

I have a DWM Sporter 1898 in 7x57 that came to be in rough shape. I have been looking for information on them but cannot find any. Can someone point me in the right direction for books/articles that would shed some light on this one? It has 28x serial number with commercial proof marks.

Thanks Much:

Flatlander

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John303
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Re: DWM 1898 Sporter [Re: Flatlander]
      #214496 - 13/08/12 12:34 PM

Welcome Flatlander, you could just go to the Archives & Photo section on this site and look around. Some good pics. of the rifle including any marks would be a huge help, there are many knowledgeable people here that will gladly assist you. Books?? - I'd start here, I'm sure others will chime in. --- John303.

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Re: DWM 1898 Sporter [Re: John303]
      #214498 - 13/08/12 01:30 PM

Some fotos will help. I´m quite sure yours rifle wouldn´t be an original factory sporter because DWM made mostly military models.

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Re: DWM 1898 Sporter [Re: Igorrock]
      #214501 - 13/08/12 02:19 PM

Welcome to the site Flatlander!

Get some photos of your rifle up here.
There is a great resourse of information available to you here, from all around the globe.





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Flatlander
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Re: DWM 1898 Sporter [Re: tinker]
      #214587 - 14/08/12 12:31 PM

[image]http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/Ftlndr45/?action=view&current=033.jpg[/image]
[image]http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/Ftlndr45/?action=view&current=031.jpg[/image] [image]http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/Ftlndr45/?action=view&current=023.jpg[/image]

Here are a few photos. I received it in poor condition over 20 years ago and had a friend rebuild the broken stock and pantagraph in English Walnut and the barreled action had the rust removed and received a glass bead blue. The bolt is a mis-match but headspaces OK. It is chambered in 7 x 57 Mauser.

Edited by Flatlander (14/08/12 12:33 PM)

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Re: DWM 1898 Sporter [Re: Flatlander]
      #214591 - 14/08/12 01:09 PM

Here, I re-posted your pictures.
Looks like a nice restock!







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Edited by CptCurl (02/12/12 12:51 AM)

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Re: DWM 1898 Sporter [Re: Huvius]
      #214606 - 14/08/12 05:05 PM

The rear sight looks quite interesting. Could you send any close-up foto of it ?

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Flatlander
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Re: DWM 1898 Sporter [Re: Igorrock]
      #214653 - 15/08/12 09:13 AM

Thanks Huvius for re-posting my pictures. I am still trying to get the hang of this.

I will try again with a photo of the rear sight as requested.

[image]http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/Ftlndr45/?action=view&current=035.jpg[/image]

It appears I am still doing something wrong.

Edited by Flatlander (15/08/12 09:15 AM)

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Re: DWM 1898 Sporter [Re: Flatlander]
      #214654 - 15/08/12 09:51 AM

http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/Ftlndr45/?action=view&current=035.jpg



Edited by CptCurl (02/12/12 12:51 AM)

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Re: DWM 1898 Sporter [Re: 500grains]
      #214701 - 16/08/12 06:46 AM

Though this rifle may look like a sporterized surplus military rifle, it is not. At the time it was proofed there were no "surplus" M98 rifles, as these were still state of the art military rifles.
The CROWN-crown/N proofmark shows it was civilian proofed according to the rule of July 23, 1893, using the special "4000 atm proof powder". This proof was in use mainly before 1912, though Zella-Mehlis apparently sometimes used up left-over powder up to 1922. IMHO this rifle was proofed before WW1.
In those innocent days around 1900 it was usual practice to include some sporting rifles in the military calibers into each shipment of military rifles to foreign countries. These were meant as "presents" to the decision-making officers. Mauser, Oberndorf sent C-type "Army Hunting Rifles", for example some in 7.65 mm for Argentinia, see Jon Speed's first book "Mauser-OOSR" page 111.
Ludwig Loewe/DWM also had sporters, the so-called "Plezier rifles" built on left over M93 Spanish Mauser actions and shipped them, together with the military M95 7x57 Mausers, to the South African republics Orange Free State and Transvaal, where the sporters were not only used for hunting, but for shooting Brits too. These plezier Mausers are now rare and sought-after collector items. All these rifles show civilian proofmarks.
IMHO this DWM made, civilian proofed sporter served as a present (or bribe) when it was shipped to a South American country. At least, it looks somewhat similar to a Mauser C-type with the military stepped barrel and front sight base. Though DWM did not offer sporters to the public, they made several hundreds at least, but not for sale.

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Re: DWM 1898 Sporter [Re: kuduae]
      #214719 - 16/08/12 10:33 AM

its looks as good as the day it was built .......paul

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Flatlander
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Re: DWM 1898 Sporter [Re: pjaln]
      #214738 - 16/08/12 01:23 PM

kuduae:

Thanks for the information. I have been looking for years at several gun shows for a similar rifle and have not found one. Your information leads me to believe there are not many of them around.

To All: Thanks for the kind words on one of my favorite Mausers.

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Re: DWM 1898 Sporter [Re: Flatlander]
      #214818 - 17/08/12 04:47 AM

Beautiful rifle, I love the shape and the wood in that stock.

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Re: DWM 1898 Sporter [Re: MarkPoley]
      #214828 - 17/08/12 06:53 AM

Agree wholeheartedly. The gentle transition from the wrist to the comb line is so much more eye pleasing than the abrupt (and often sharp cornered) heavily fluted offerings more usually seen.
A treasure indeed.

Von Gruff.

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