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vegard_dino
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Old, 1900-1945 Mauser stock, weak?
      #213349 - 24/07/12 04:55 AM



Hi all.

Was at the range now and got talking with a man who had a Mauser in 9.3x62 from 1923, but with a new ugly modern looking stock...Hmm.

So, we got talking and he told me why he had that done to the rifle. It was an original Mauser, stock and all when he got it. But, the stock was to weak he told me. The stock had started to crack, then got a repair....then more cracks in the wood... so he had a new one made...Hmmmm..Really??
No, find that hard to believe..

It has to be a very poor made stock that was on the rifle, not the original.

What you al think?

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Re: Old, 1900-1945 Mauser stock, weak? [Re: vegard_dino]
      #213357 - 24/07/12 09:17 AM

Hello

My 9.3x62 Model B from 1925 (I think, just can't recall exactly) is in its original stock, having been in Rhodesia for most of its life - this rifle has been shot and carried a lot !! The stock is fine, and notably, does not have a crossbolt.

All of the Model B's I have are stocked with very plain but very dense, tight grained and very "correctly" laid out stocks.

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Re: Old, 1900-1945 Mauser stock, weak? [Re: Tentman]
      #213375 - 24/07/12 04:55 PM



Thanks for the rpely.

I had a feeling it was as you say. I guess the stock he was talking about was not an original one, badly made one.

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Re: Old, 1900-1945 Mauser stock, weak? [Re: vegard_dino]
      #213381 - 24/07/12 06:03 PM

Thatīs a rather academic debate here.
Every stock can crack . It depends on how the rifle was treated and where it was stored. I had more than 25 Original Oberndorf sporters of all types and production time.

Yes Original Oberndorf Mauser stocks cracked as well as any other makes of those days. In the cases of cracks occuring one could see one main defect.
That was shrinking wood.
There was no more wood between the bottom of the action and the nagazine .So tightening the screws couldnīt fix the metal in the wood any more. So if the rifle was further fired, cracks started in the area behind the recoil lug of the action and more or less simultaneously behind the magazine. Signs from outside are small cracks behind the tang area on top of the pistol grip.
The key for preventing further cracking is the first repair.
If you glue , bed (with or without cross bolts) only the cracks you should always provide for enough material between the action and magazine otherwise the action swims in the stock and cracking goes on.

When you see the magazine contacting the bottom of the action , when the screws are tightened you should start repairing.

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Re: Old, 1900-1945 Mauser stock, weak? [Re: justcurious]
      #213408 - 25/07/12 01:54 AM

Exactly, justcurious -

when the stock wood shrinks or the wood in the action seat becomes compressed over time the action becomes loose, even though you may tighten the screws, the action may be bedding on the trigger guard. Thus, the barreled action is still loose in the stock. To fire it with a loose barreled action, will result in a cracked stock.

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Re: Old, 1900-1945 Mauser stock, weak? [Re: DarylS]
      #213410 - 25/07/12 02:08 AM

Wood is wood but Mauser built them well. it is surprising how many of them are still in use around the world.

Here is a photo of my 1920's model B 30-06 on the beach here in Alaska.




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Edited by CptCurl (12/11/12 02:44 AM)

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Re: Old, 1900-1945 Mauser stock, weak? [Re: 458Win]
      #213412 - 25/07/12 03:12 AM



Thanks for good help and information.

Nice Mauser you got.

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Re: Old, 1900-1945 Mauser stock, weak? [Re: vegard_dino]
      #213422 - 25/07/12 06:43 AM

Here's my 1871/76 Mauser in .450 Alaskan - no cracks.


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Edited by CptCurl (12/11/12 02:44 AM)

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Re: Old, 1900-1945 Mauser stock, weak? [Re: DarylS]
      #213462 - 26/07/12 09:00 AM

Well on a Mauser it should be metal on metal when tightening the action screws.If there is a mushy tightening then it is not bedded properly.The front lug of the action should be tight with the insert of the magazine and the rear should both be tightened to the metal sleeve insert in the stock.I have seen problems arise when this sleeve is omitted when a rifle is restocked.I seal all of my wood stocks with a few coats of varnish and have never had a problem with them and I hunt in all conditions.My Dad and I have lived and hunted in Montana ,Alaska and Afrika our entire life and have NEVER had a problem with a wood stock.But of course we know how to maintain them

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Re: Old, 1900-1945 Mauser stock, weak? [Re: DarylS]
      #213463 - 26/07/12 10:08 AM

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Here's my 1871/76 Mauser in .450 Alaskan - no cracks.



A magnificent rifle!And well mantained,sehr gut! Nothing is like hunting with a classic Mauser!

Edited by CptCurl (12/11/12 02:45 AM)

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Re: Old, 1900-1945 Mauser stock, weak? [Re: Deutsche_Vortrekker]
      #213475 - 26/07/12 04:54 PM



Thanks for the reply and information.

Very nice 1871/76. A great rifle.

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