Home | Ezine | Forums | Links | Contact
NitroExpress.com: 10 bore to 12 bore

View recent messages : 24 hours | 48 hours | 7 days | 14 days | 30 days | 60 days | More Smilies


*** Enjoy NitroExpress.com? Participate and join in. ***
You are not logged in. [Login] Main Index · Search · Active Topics
New user · Who's Online · FAQ · Calendar

Double Rifles, Single Shots & Combinations >> Building Double Rifles & Gunsmithing
Previous topic Previous   View all topics Index   Next topic Next   Threaded Mode Threaded  

Pages: 1 | 2 | (show all)
DarylS
.700 member


Reged: 10/08/05
Posts: 27726
Loc: Beautiful British Columbia, Ca...
Re: 10 bore to 12 bore [Re: TomN]
      #221259 - 10/12/12 03:58 AM

Instead of trying fill in with solder between the ribs, Tom and taking the chance of getting too much heat there (barrel separation), I'd simply use JB compound. Leave a little bubble of epoxy sticking out and file it flush after it cures. If you want to file out a piece of aluminum or steel to fit and epoxy that in, that's a possibility as well.
If this shows I'm a 'hack' well, that wouldn't be far off.

--------------------
Daryl


"a gun without hammers is like a Spaniel without ears" King George V

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
TomN
.300 member


Reged: 07/03/10
Posts: 149
Loc: washington
Re: 10 bore to 12 bore [Re: DarylS]
      #221268 - 10/12/12 07:07 AM

Thanks Daryl I hadn't though of that I may just leve it as is for now if I find a very good load that shoots well in both barrels I but not together it will be easer to reregulate with a wage. By the way the barrels are no longer tuching their is about a 32nd of an inch beween them so not as much convergents as with the longer barrels.
Tom N.

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
DarylS
.700 member


Reged: 10/08/05
Posts: 27726
Loc: Beautiful British Columbia, Ca...
Re: 10 bore to 12 bore [Re: TomN]
      #221269 - 10/12/12 07:51 AM

Shotgun barrels are noted as having more elevation in the rib due to larger base compared to muzzle diameters (Lt. James Forsyth 1860) and more conversion of the muzzles due to getting the shot loads to print together at close ranges. Both of characteristics are negatives when shooting slugs. Shortening the tubes helps reduce both potential problems. I filled my rib with JB and it worked well and still hasn't shot loose, the current owner now having used it for his moose yearly, since about 1988.

--------------------
Daryl


"a gun without hammers is like a Spaniel without ears" King George V

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
TomN
.300 member


Reged: 07/03/10
Posts: 149
Loc: washington
Re: 10 bore to 12 bore [Re: DarylS]
      #221327 - 11/12/12 09:30 AM

How do you post pictures from photobucket or facebook?

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
AkMike
.416 member


Reged: 19/11/05
Posts: 2576
Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
Re: 10 bore to 12 bore [Re: TomN]
      #221336 - 11/12/12 01:05 PM

From photobucket copy the 2nd addy of the 4 and paste it in the box for images at this site.

--------------------
"When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing; when you see that money is flowing to those who deal not in goods, but in favors; you may know that your society is doomed." Ayn Rand

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
TomN
.300 member


Reged: 07/03/10
Posts: 149
Loc: washington
Re: 10 bore to 12 bore [Re: AkMike]
      #221339 - 11/12/12 01:56 PM

Here are the photos they are on facebook they can be inlarged by cliclling on them 10 bore smooth rifle 26" barrells and williams site let me know if the link works.
TomN

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=...mp;l=31c177e1a8

Edited by TomN (11/12/12 02:00 PM)

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
DarylS
.700 member


Reged: 10/08/05
Posts: 27726
Loc: Beautiful British Columbia, Ca...
Re: 10 bore to 12 bore [Re: TomN]
      #221372 - 12/12/12 03:25 AM

Tom- in 10 bore, you will be at the same point I was with my 12 double. I started with heavy, highest velocity shot loads and went from there, keping an eye on pressure - case feel, action opening, primer appearance, wads loosening, that sort of thing.

I don't have the exact weight on #4 buck - maybe someone else can help. I think it's 22gr. - but not sure. I will use that weight as I think it's close.

The loading I am looking at in Lyman's book is in 3 1/2" Remington SP Express w/composite base wad, WW 209 primer + 41 #4's (902gr.): wad column = Power piston - + shot and 46.0gr. Blue Dot for 1,336fps - listed at 10,000LUP.

Considering a 10 bore round ball in pure lead weighs 200gr. lighter than the buck load at 700gr., about 650gr. in WW alloy, I'd start with the above load.

Some of the other powders & loads with merit delivering decent speeds to start in 10 bore are:

:Fed case - WW209 - 40.0gr. SR4756 - RP piston + .125" card - 15 # 00 buck - about 750gr. total at 1,283fps @ 9,500LUP

:same case - 45.0gr. Blue Dot - same wad and shot - 1,263fps at 8,800LUP.

:Rem Case - WW209 - 38.0gr. SR 4756 - Piston wad - 14 00buck- about 700gr. - 1,268fps @ 9,200LUP

:same case - WW209 - 43.0gr. HS6 - Piston wad - 14 00buck - about 700gr. @ 1,311fps - 9,600LUP.

Hope this helps you get started.

--------------------
Daryl


"a gun without hammers is like a Spaniel without ears" King George V

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
TomN
.300 member


Reged: 07/03/10
Posts: 149
Loc: washington
Re: 10 bore to 12 bore [Re: DarylS]
      #221482 - 13/12/12 12:44 PM

Daryl thanks I will keep them saved and use them to start with round ball loads.

TomN

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Pages: 1 | 2 | (show all)


Previous topic Previous   View all topics Index   Next topic Next   Threaded Mode Threaded  

Extra information
0 registered and 37 anonymous users are browsing this forum.

Moderator:  CptCurl 

Print Topic

Forum Permissions
      You cannot start new topics
      You cannot reply to topics
      HTML is disabled
      UBBCode is enabled

Rating:
Topic views: 9163

Rate this topic

Jump to

Contact Us NitroExpress.com

Powered by UBB.threads™ 6.5.5


Home | Ezine | Forums | Links | Contact


Copyright 2003 to 2011 - all rights reserved