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MarkR
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FN Browning
#206002 - 26/03/12 07:19 PM

What can people tell me about post war fn Browning rifles? I have found an unmolested (no drill and tap) commercial action barrelled in 250-3000? Seems a nice rifle with a terrible trigger.....

Cheers,
Mark.

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CptCurl
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Re: FN Browning [Re: MarkR]
#206006 - 26/03/12 10:36 PM

Beware of salt cured wood.

I'm no expert on Brownings, but they just about ruined themselves using wood that ultimately corroded all the metal below the wood line.

I think some people think the serial number will reveal whether it was made during this period, but I'm out of that loop. Take the rifle out of its stock and look for corrosion or heavy refinishing.

Good luck,
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MarkR
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Re: FN Browning [Re: CptCurl]
#206026 - 27/03/12 07:18 AM

Thanks Curl.

Cheers,
Mark.

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tophet1
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Re: FN Browning [Re: MarkR]
#206030 - 27/03/12 10:53 AM

Mark,

I have a read a fair bit about the FN Brownings and at one time (still are by some) were considered the creme de la creme of commercial hunting rifles. How much of this was due to good marketing at the time of release I don't know. It may have been a slow year for new rifles.

The salt cured stock problem is well documented and should be investigated. However, not all FN Brownings had salt cured stocks and not all those stocks will corrode the rifle. IIRC salt cured wood also occurs on other rifles. Bit like buying a used car, the tyres are cheap but still have good tread. It's your call.

As you may know I'm a 250-3000 fan and if you have a mickey mouse rifle consider me green with envy.

Good luck in Vic.

John

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wjw
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Re: FN Browning [Re: tophet1]
#206033 - 27/03/12 11:24 AM

Mark

Is the action a Mauser with the modified bolt release - these came in Safari/Medallion/Olympic grades and had the standard Mauser claw extractor. Later versions had a Sako type extractor and all were standard length - with some opened up for the .375 H&H.

For short carteidges (.243/.308 lengths) the Browning Safari/Medallion/Olympic grades were built on the Sako Forester action and .222's were on the Sako Vixen - both with the reciever ground round and were drilled and tapped for scope bases. Triggers were standard Sako.

Be interesting to see a photo of the action you describe as undrilled.

Bill

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MarkR
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Re: FN Browning [Re: tophet1]
#206034 - 27/03/12 11:27 AM

Thanks John.

I'm really having trouble trying to decide if I want a classic 250-3000, something as a shooter or just save my bucks for a cape buff hunt, or similar

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Mark.

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Re: FN Browning [Re: MarkR]
#206051 - 27/03/12 02:49 PM

Not all .243/.308 were Sako's. Early guns were SR standard length mausers. Delightful rifles with slim barrels and under 7 pounds without scope. Sounds like what you have is an FN/pre Browning barreled action. I have a similar dated 1951 with turned down barrel similar to the Brownings-coyotes beware!!

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MarkR
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Re: FN Browning [Re: wjw]
#206057 - 27/03/12 05:59 PM

Quote:

Mark

Is the action a Mauser with the modified bolt release - these came in Safari/Medallion/Olympic grades and had the standard Mauser claw extractor. Later versions had a Sako type extractor and all were standard length - with some opened up for the .375 H&H.

For short carteidges (.243/.308 lengths) the Browning Safari/Medallion/Olympic grades were built on the Sako Forester action and .222's were on the Sako Vixen - both with the reciever ground round and were drilled and tapped for scope bases. Triggers were standard Sako.

Be interesting to see a photo of the action you describe as undrilled.

Bill

I don't have any pics but it was definitely a mauser action 30-06 length. Looks like an M98 but without the thumb cut out and is un-tapped with no ridge on the rear of the receiver. Had a mauser type bolt release. This was not a sako type of action that I'm aware of. The barrel had the same markings as the action that leads me to believe this was a factory rifle.

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Mark.

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Phillip
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Re: FN Browning [Re: MarkR]
#206069 - 27/03/12 08:56 PM

You have a FN Sporter,pre-Browning,a friend has two of those for his grandsons. Brownings were always drilled and tapped,because they also made mounts and they were for the American market.
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tophet1
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Re: FN Browning [Re: Phillip]
#206168 - 29/03/12 03:57 PM

In the Fall 2011 Special Edition of RIFLE magazine on page 20 is the start of a write up on the Browning High-Power Bolt-Action Rifle by Brian Pearce.

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Paul
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Re: FN Browning [Re: tophet1]
#206176 - 29/03/12 10:00 PM

Forgive me if this is obvious or has been indicated somewhere, but a rifle of that calibre sounds early to me. The .243 (if not the 257 Roberts) had pretty much eclipsed the 250/3000 by the mid '60s.

What year did the salt-cured stocks come out?

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tophet1
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Re: FN Browning [Re: Paul]
#206178 - 29/03/12 10:35 PM

Salt cured stocks were used between 1966 and 1971.

Export to the US started in 1947.
1963-1974 Sakos were used for small calibes along side larger calibre Mauser 98's and a modified push feed Mauser with plunger ejector (cheap to build).
1960-63 small ring mausers were used in .243 and .308.

Edited by tophet1 (29/03/12 10:37 PM)

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John303
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Re: FN Browning [Re: tophet1]
#206181 - 30/03/12 12:38 AM

I believe that the 250 was first available in 1949 to about 1952 (can't be certain) info not clear. All info. garnered from F. de Haas - Bolt Action Rifles, quite a lengthy read on FNs to be had there. FWIW --- John303.

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mckinney
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Re: FN Browning [Re: John303]
#206198 - 30/03/12 08:24 AM

An FN rifle in .250 savage would have been before the salt wood issue that Browning had. There are no Browning Safari rifles in that caliber as far as I'm aware, only earlier FNs. I wouldn't worry about it.

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MarkR
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Re: FN Browning [Re: mckinney]
#206274 - 31/03/12 03:44 PM

This is a pretty sweet rifle but as I would rather something to use as a shooter with a scope and with this rifle the receiver is clean.

Thanks for the replies fellas.

Cheers,
Mark.

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