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NitroX
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Re: Fallow Shot Placement [Re: blacks]
#200104 - 20/01/12 02:43 PM

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The most important thing though - I'd be shooting him SOON before he starts to get rutty....

Are they rubbing down your way yet?

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Re: Fallow Shot Placement [Re: NitroX]
#200105 - 20/01/12 02:51 PM

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However I do recommend a decent centrefire starting with .243 myself for wild fallow.

Found some good butchering videos on youtube. I'll put them up on a new thread for anyone interested. I learned what I should be doing ....

A 'sticky' on the utilisation of game would be handy.

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blacks
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Re: Fallow Shot Placement [Re: gryphon]
#200222 - 21/01/12 10:26 PM

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Geezuz Blacks did Molly Meldrum get to that deer haha?
Skinned pic hanging up!

Those throw away bits mate...cut the ribs into sections and grill over slow box coals!

Haha....yeah certainly got all the arse out of that one lol....

I don't have a bandsaw, so generally just take the straps and fillets and ditch the ribcage.

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Re: Fallow Shot Placement [Re: NitroX]
#200223 - 21/01/12 10:27 PM

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The most important thing though - I'd be shooting him SOON before he starts to get rutty....

Are they rubbing down your way yet?

I haven't been out for a few weeks - going for another look next Saturday. But the answer would be no - usually late Feb.

Cheers

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Re: Fallow Shot Placement [Re: Matt_Graham]
#200244 - 22/01/12 04:49 AM

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Sounds like you are talking about a fenced herd. If thats the case and if it were me, I would be looking to maximise the opportunity and not waste any meat either. I would go the head or high neck shot with a very accurate rifle, even a 223 or similar. Spend a lot of time finding the best position to get a good shot and not stir the deer up too much.

Matt - I've only shot the last 2 mule dear and 1 whitetail deer high through the scapula and spine. Dead right there (DRT), every one of them - no kicking, just dead. One's hind leg moved a bit but that was it. I was able to open them up immediately, no waiting for the kicking to stop.
As for a lung shot allowing the adrenalin to pump throughout the muscles, I'm sure it happens to already spooked animals. I'm positive that some animal's really strong flavour (other than during the rut) is due to a long hard frantic/panic run after bullet impact.

With moose, you can sometimes get them to stop by (bull)grunting at them as they take off. Works often. This HAS to be good for the meat.

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Re: Fallow Shot Placement [Re: DarylS]
#200250 - 22/01/12 05:29 AM

Gentlemen, tophet Sir...may I propose a dead straight frontal (just where the neck meets the chest) - should do the trick (drt+no wasted meat+you keep the head)?

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simonsaorsa
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Re: Fallow Shot Placement [Re: 93mouse]
#200253 - 22/01/12 06:08 AM

check out www.deerinitiative.co.uk/uploads/guides.161.pdf. Diagrams to show the positions of the organs in red and roe deer- fallow about in between in size, plus guidance on angled shots.

head shots frowned on here in the UK, and subject of some degree of controversy currently in some UK circles.

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Re: Fallow Shot Placement [Re: simonsaorsa]
#200265 - 22/01/12 10:32 AM

if we are meat shooting and confident of reading the animals movements and the possible success level of shots many of us just may take that head shot as it presents simonsaorsa.

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Matt_Graham
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Re: Fallow Shot Placement [Re: simonsaorsa]
#200305 - 22/01/12 07:34 PM

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head shots frowned on here in the UK, and subject of some degree of controversy currently in some UK circles.

The hand-wringers are onto you about that too eh??

funny... with our commercial kangaroo harvest here - headshots are the ONLY thing allowed!!!

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simonsaorsa
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Re: Fallow Shot Placement [Re: Matt_Graham]
#200359 - 23/01/12 08:50 AM

nope, not the anti - hunt lobby, but a part of the deer hunting community - whole article on it in this quarter's Deer journal.

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Matt_Graham
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Re: Fallow Shot Placement [Re: simonsaorsa]
#200366 - 23/01/12 11:15 AM

And what do they base their arguments on?? I cant imagine...

If it includes the word 'ethic' I will feel the bile rise in my throat. I cant believe some of the crappy propositions hunters themselves pose.... Plenty of hand-wringers in the hunting community and plenty of people with little else to talk about - than crap.

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Re: Fallow Shot Placement [Re: NitroX]
#200390 - 23/01/12 04:57 PM

I used to do some guiding on a hunting preserve in North Central Pennsylvania. Occassionally we'd get orders from various meat suppliers to provide them with vennison: Fallow Deer or Axis Deer. It was my task to harvest the deer. The purveyor had very strict requirements about the carcasses, including that there could be no blood shot meat on the carcass. For the shooting I had a very accurate Remington 700 in 7mm Rem.Magnum, topped with a Leupold 2.5 x 10 scope. My choice of bullet was the 140 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip bullet which I'd place between the eyes if facing me, or between the eye and ear hole if broadside. Only does were taken. Those shots did make a mess of the heads, usually blowing the eyes out of the sockets, and chunks of the skull blowing out as well. Not pretty, but effective, and no meat loss at all. The Axis Deer, imho, are the finest table fare I've eaten, followed closely by Fallow Deer, then Elk, excluding some of the African game I've enjoyed.

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NitroX
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Re: Fallow Shot Placement [Re: tophet1]
#280273 - 04/04/16 01:14 AM

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I found a shot placement photo that is free to use.

Talking about using a .22 on another thread, a mate who is a butcher and expert on where to shoot a fallow with such a sub-standard cartridge, said he always shoots them right on the second or third dot of the dot line on a menial fallow. Quite a big difference between the decond and third dot from the photos. I forget which dot he uses. I don't use that method.

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