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paradox
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Color hardening
#195083 - 28/11/11 09:48 AM

Hi Guys,

Does anyone know a gunmaker in the UK that can do nice color hardening.
I mean the type that H&H use for example. Not the harsh, over bright colors.

Kind regards,

Hubert

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Re: Color hardening [Re: paradox]
#195084 - 28/11/11 09:54 AM

Ray St. Ledger; Birmingham, England ?

Also, I thought the colours were determined by the steel, coke used, packing, length of time etc etc.

ie H&H type versus Rigby type of CCH ?

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Re: Colour hardening [Re: 500Nitro]
#195090 - 28/11/11 10:22 AM

This is the H&H kind I meant:

This is the other kind:

It'll probably wear off in time to produce the colours we know of vintage guns, but who knows? We don't now what they looked like when new.

Regards,

Hubert

Edited by CptCurl (28/11/11 12:22 PM)

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Re: Color hardening [Re: paradox]
#195092 - 28/11/11 10:29 AM

Rigby seemed to have that Grey / deep Red look to their CCH.

I do like the H&H CCH.

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Re: Color hardening [Re: 500Nitro]
#195095 - 28/11/11 10:49 AM

I think you are right about the method and the colour that produces it. Originally some used ivory in stead of bone dust. People who can produce colours like that will probably keep the recepy to themselves, which is understandable.
I just would like to find someone who can do the soft brown/blue colours.

Kind regards,

Hubert

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Re: Color hardening [Re: paradox]
#195097 - 28/11/11 10:54 AM

Enough absolute original guns survive to know what they looked like new.

I would at least start by asking the gunsmiths /old gunshops in the UK or even look up Ray St. Ledger; Birmingham, England.

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Re: Color hardening [Re: 500Nitro]
#195099 - 28/11/11 11:11 AM

Thank you for that.
I found them and will give them a call tomorrow.

Hubert

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Re: Color hardening [Re: paradox]
#195132 - 28/11/11 06:28 PM

.500 Nitro, yep St Ledger in Birmingham, H&H, Purdey, Boss, top end AYA guns are done there as well, another company that do top end work on Italian guns are Schilling in Germany, best

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