Buchsemann
.333 member
Reged: 12/12/08
Posts: 439
Loc: Wisconsin, USA
|
|
Shamus,
You lucky dog. You have yourself a very nice and rare find. The Halger is a direct descendant of the .280 Ross which has the distinction of being the first 7mm Magnum. Here is an article about the Halger published in the 1984 "Rifle" magazine Issue No. 96:


You may want to copy the images and then blow them up a bit to read them.
Regards,
Buchseman
-------------------- Happy the man, and happy he alone,
He who can call today his own:
He who, secure within, can say,
Tomorrow do thy worst, for I have lived today.
- John Dryden
Edited by CptCurl (26/05/12 09:14 AM)
|
Buchsemann
.333 member
Reged: 12/12/08
Posts: 439
Loc: Wisconsin, USA
|
|
Shamus,
I will add that when researching reference hand loading data for my .280 Ross double rifle I accumulated a fair amount of information on the Ross and Halger loads. They are both way too hot for a double rifle but the data may do you some good when you get around to hand loading for your new toy. The loads that I use in my double may be good starting loads for your gun so let me know if you would be interested in seeing them as well.
Regards,
Buchseman
-------------------- Happy the man, and happy he alone,
He who can call today his own:
He who, secure within, can say,
Tomorrow do thy worst, for I have lived today.
- John Dryden
|
mckinney
.400 member
Reged: 29/01/09
Posts: 1240
Loc: usa
|
|
Morris Hallowell (www.hallowellco.com) had one of these rifles in the same caliber a few years back. It didn't last long at 13K USD, and condition appeared to be similar to yours, maybe a bit better. These rifles were insanely expensive for the period in which they were introduced, costing about 1,000 Depression era US dollars. The real prize would be one in .335 Halger.
Great piece of gun making history. I don't know about the sympathetic restoration - have had a few of these done myself and still have mixed feelings. Might be best to clean it only and leave as is.
|
Rule303
.450 member
Reged: 05/07/09
Posts: 5265
Loc: Woodford Qld
|
|
First time I have heard of Halger. Reading this thread has been informative, thanks to all who have posted.
Shamus do you still have the rifle or have you picked up the Rigby?
|
shamus
.224 member
Reged: 24/10/11
Posts: 39
Loc: NZ
|
|
Hi Buchseman,
I've read that article thanks, the scope seems to be very rare itself. The loads would be great, I'm still waiting for the dies that were to come with the rifle but haven't seen them yet.
Cheers
Edited by shamus (26/04/12 07:29 PM)
|
shamus
.224 member
Reged: 24/10/11
Posts: 39
Loc: NZ
|
|
Hi Rule303,
Still have the Halger as well as the Rigby, very nice.
Cheers
-------------------- Shamus
|
shamus
.224 member
Reged: 24/10/11
Posts: 39
Loc: NZ
|
|
Hi Mckinney,
Thanks for the info. I've given the rifle a good clean and it's come up alot better than it looks in the first pics. That's far as I'll go as I like to see them honest and not tarted up.
Cheers
-------------------- Shamus
|
gerlich
.224 member
Reged: 24/11/12
Posts: 3
Loc: Denmark
|
|
What a small world, I was the one who purchased your Halger no 120, and correct I am the grandson of the Hermann Gerlich who designed the Halger guns. I have app 10 Halger guns all O&U shot guns so I was very happy to add. the Rifle .280 all Rifels my father had was confiscated dooing WW2. One is the gun I am also interested in the storry. How did you get hold of it in the first place? I notis the Scope and Tricker has been modifird do you know if the original had the german dobble tricker? I am still looking out for Halger guns and especialy for the cal 224 and the 335 if you know anyone I am very interested...........
|
Ardent
.275 member
Reged: 19/11/12
Posts: 52
Loc: Northern British Columbia, Can...
|
|
Quite something to hear from the Grandson- and glad you got ahold of a .280 HV Mag.
-------------------- www.morrisonarms.com
|
Huvius
.416 member
Reged: 04/11/07
Posts: 3618
Loc: Colorado
|
|
Quote:
What a small world, I was the one who purchased your Halger no 120, and correct I am the grandson of the Hermann Gerlich who designed the Halger guns. I have app 10 Halger guns all O&U shot guns so I was very happy to add. the Rifle .280 all Rifels my father had was confiscated dooing WW2. One is the gun I am also interested in the storry. How did you get hold of it in the first place? I notis the Scope and Tricker has been modifird do you know if the original had the german dobble tricker? I am still looking out for Halger guns and especialy for the cal 224 and the 335 if you know anyone I am very interested...........
WOW!! All I can say is that I am pleased that you now have the rifle, and, of course, welcome to NitroExpress!! If you are interested, and if you can accept them, I found the reloading dies which were made to the chambers of Halger No.120 and will be happy to post them to you if you like. I came into the rifle through my brother, John, who inherited it from my Great Uncle, Floyd Hill. I suspect he bought it sometime in the 70's or 80's, perhaps through Champlins or another of the primary dealers of those days. My Great Uncle also owned Halger #105 and I think his attraction to the .280 Halger stemmed from his love of his .280 Dubiel which he used extensively for deer and Pronghorn Antelope back in the '30s. That, and the fact that he was crazy for magnum length Mausers. I don't know about the scope but I agree that it looked as though it was added later in the rifle's life and I also cannot say anything about the trigger setup.
Do you plan on using the rifle?
-------------------- He who lives in the past is doomed to enjoy it.
|
NitroX
.700 member
Reged: 25/12/02
Posts: 40706
Loc: Barossa Valley, South Australi...
|
|
Quote:
What a small world, I was the one who purchased your Halger no 120, and correct I am the grandson of the Hermann Gerlich who designed the Halger guns. I have app 10 Halger guns all O&U shot guns so I was very happy to add. the Rifle .280 all Rifels my father had was confiscated dooing WW2. One is the gun I am also interested in the storry. How did you get hold of it in the first place? I notis the Scope and Tricker has been modifird do you know if the original had the german dobble tricker? I am still looking out for Halger guns and especialy for the cal 224 and the 335 if you know anyone I am very interested...........
Good to see. Received an email with some good information for Mr Gerlich. Passed on the information as requested.
-------------------- John aka NitroX
...
Govt get out of our lives NOW!
"I love the smell of cordite in the morning."
"A Sharp spear needs no polish"
|
gerlich
.224 member
Reged: 24/11/12
Posts: 3
Loc: Denmark
|
|
Thanks for your welcome to NitroExpress and what a great forum. Huvius, thank you very much for the information it is always much more of interest if you know the background of the gun.
I will be very interested in any accessory, but please help me what is a “reloading dies” If you ore other are interested in Halger information I will be happy to share.
VBR Ole Gerlich
|
xausa
.400 member
Reged: 07/03/07
Posts: 2037
Loc: Tennessee, USA
|
|
Herr Gerlich,
"reloading die" heißt "Matrize" auf Deutsch. Falls Sie Schwierigkeit bie der Übersetzung empfinden, können Sie sich jederzeit an mich wenden.
Bill Warren
|
gerlich
.224 member
Reged: 24/11/12
Posts: 3
Loc: Denmark
|
|
Sehr geehrter Herr Bill, Vielen Dank für die Übersetzung,To calibrate the cartridge case, I suppose. So I am very interested I have some original Halger .280 bullets and only few cartridges. Ole Gerlich
|