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two unusual drillings again
      #191883 - 16/10/11 05:08 AM

a Waldläufer in 12/70 and 22 lr from Michelitsch, Ferlach. in 2008 it get a Swarovski 3-9x36, a new blueing for the barrels and new side plates because the old ones are lost.
the selector is visible on the right side plate.
very tastful engraving and I hope it comes into the hands of a good craftsman how is able to restore it so good as possible.













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Suhler Drilling made from Greifelt in 1935 16/70-8x57IR , restore and new proofed in 1974.
interesting is the selector lever on the left side. did not see that kind before and maybe a special greifelt design.
will see if axel know this.










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Re: two unusual drillings again [Re: lancaster]
      #191896 - 16/10/11 12:29 PM

Both very interesting with my interest piqued on the Greifeldt. At first I would guess sourced from Funk but I wonder if it is actually a model 531/533 with their patented(D.R.G.M.) auto ball lock safety along with a separate cocking mechanism for the solid projectile tube? Also I don't see a safety so I wonder it the lever on the left side is some Greener variant?

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Re: two unusual drillings again [Re: lancaster]
      #191934 - 16/10/11 06:42 PM

Quote:

a Waldläufer in 12/70 and 22 lr from Michelitsch, Ferlach. in 2008 it get a Swarovski 3-9x36, a new blueing for the barrels and new side plates because the old ones are lost.
the selector is visible on the right side plate.
very tastful engraving and I hope it comes into the hands of a good craftsman how is able to restore it so good as possible.




Lancaster,

A question, or for anyone that can answer it, how accurate is the rifle barrel, the .22, in a gun like this? In general, obviously not for any particular rifle. Are these .22's capable of very good accuracy? Average? Or only a close range sort of proposition?

Thanks to anyone whom can comment.

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Re: two unusual drillings again [Re: NitroX]
      #191955 - 16/10/11 11:11 PM

the greifelt drilling have this lever on the left side and a slide on the stock wrist.


because a common drilling have the greener safety where the lever is one can assume that this lever is also the safety and the slide on the wrist activate the rifle barrel.
but thinking that the drilling hanging on your back, maybe together with a rucksack, the chance is very high that some movement disengage the safety unlike the greener safety where is some protection.
till someone know it better I can only believe that the lever activate the rifle barrel.

nitrox, I hear that you would like to have a waldläufer!
its not recommanded to shoot game bigger like rabbits or birds and not on more that 50-80 meter with a 22 lr.
I had never a waldläufer in my hands but think that accuracy will be good enough for such hunting situations. of course, its not a target rifle!

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Re: two unusual drillings again [Re: lancaster]
      #191981 - 17/10/11 08:59 AM

My 16/22 waldlaufer is very accurate as a rifle.

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Re: two unusual drillings again [Re: tinker]
      #192208 - 20/10/11 07:03 PM

The Greifelt may be fitted with a rifle selector lever, but to me this lever looks identical to a safety lever called an Abzugstangensicherung. I had an identical looking lever safety on a Drilling retailed by Louis Knappworst of Braunschweig in 1931. I sold it 9 years ago, so can't go and check it now. I also have a photo of a Sauer and Son Dural action Drilling, of perhaps 1960/70's vintage or thereabouts. Same safety. I believe it is a more comprehensive safety than an 1875 Greener side-safety, however, it was also slower to use for wingshooting of flushed game. Perhaps with more practise and technique I might have got used to it.

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Re: two unusual drillings again [Re: lancaster]
      #192837 - 31/10/11 09:54 PM

Quote:

the greifelt drilling have this lever on the left side and a slide on the stock wrist.


because a common drilling have the greener safety where the lever is one can assume that this lever is also the safety and the slide on the wrist activate the rifle barrel.
but thinking that the drilling hanging on your back, maybe together with a rucksack, the chance is very high that some movement disengage the safety unlike the greener safety where is some protection.
till someone know it better I can only believe that the lever activate the rifle barrel.

nitrox, I hear that you would like to have a waldläufer!
its not recommanded to shoot game bigger like rabbits or birds and not on more that 50-80 meter with a 22 lr.
I had never a waldläufer in my hands but think that accuracy will be good enough for such hunting situations. of course, its not a target rifle!




lancaster,

Years ago I had a drilling in 16/16/8x57JR marked "Herman Schneider, Zella Mehlis" which had the same lever as the one you mention. The lever is indeed the safety. This particular lever actually lifts the hammers off the sears and provides a positive block of the hammers.

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Re: two unusual drillings again [Re: CptCurl]
      #193660 - 12/11/11 07:09 PM

a Waldläufer again, now from J. Fanzoi in FERLACH and the rifled barrel on top in 22 Hornet
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=3547689










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Edited by CptCurl (17/11/11 02:07 AM)


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Re: two unusual drillings again [Re: lancaster]
      #194024 - 18/11/11 06:26 AM



Oh, what a nice drilling.
WOW......I like to have that one..... ....Just thinking of stalking around in the woods for birds, hare....What a interesting gun it is.

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Re: two unusual drillings again [Re: NitroX]
      #194447 - 22/11/11 05:40 AM

Quote:

Quote:

a Waldläufer in 12/70 and 22 lr from Michelitsch, Ferlach. in 2008 it get a Swarovski 3-9x36, a new blueing for the barrels and new side plates because the old ones are lost.
the selector is visible on the right side plate.
very tastful engraving and I hope it comes into the hands of a good craftsman how is able to restore it so good as possible.




Lancaster,

A question, or for anyone that can answer it, how accurate is the rifle barrel, the .22, in a gun like this? In general, obviously not for any particular rifle. Are these .22's capable of very good accuracy? Average? Or only a close range sort of proposition?

Thanks to anyone whom can comment.




In my TJF Schienen Drilling in 22 WRM ,barrel length 68 cm. The accuracy is very good About 1.5 cm between 2 shots at a 100 meters. That is on a day with no wind of course. The most precise round in my driling is CCI 30 grain TNT ,fun on crows.
On Grouse and Capercaillie I prefer to use a 40 grain bullet.











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