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DarylS
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Re: Break Action Singles [Re: Photog]
      #195102 - 28/11/11 11:29 AM

Photog - that rifle of yours, could have cost another $100.00 and had a nicer looking action, almost identical to the next one up, if a larger chunk of steel was used and a bit of milling done to it. The internals work and with a bit of thought, any single shot rifle maker of these cheaper guns, would have a ready market, if the LOOKED nicer. The receiver could even be plain, or with some fine line cast-in engraving as is normal these days for some guns.

If I could buy one plain, non-engraved, that looked like the Rigby or Sheiring above, for $300.00 or even #400.00 but with the NEF Centre Fire or H&A Centre Fire guts, I would. I'm dang sure there is a market.

Imagine, nicley tapered, 26" bl. in 7x57 or 7x65 - wouldn't need much in the way of cosmetic change, either, a little scuplting as-cast. Afterall, these rifles are chambered for .270's, .253's and other rounds which run 63,000psi or more.

All that's missing, for some people, is cosmetics.

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Re: Break Action Singles [Re: DarylS]
      #195108 - 28/11/11 12:44 PM

The bad thing is they do cost $100 more, even more than that actually, and they aren't even as good as this old one. I agree though, if only they would put some time into how they look they could sell much better. I have a file of single shot break action photos that I save trying to pick out the details that change them from pallet wood and pipe into art. Still no luck on what I can change on one of these to make one of those.

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Re: Break Action Singles [Re: Photog]
      #195110 - 28/11/11 12:48 PM



Here is one that came close, too bad they don't make it anymore. This one happened to have around a 10LB trigger so I traded it for a custom long bow.

Edited by CptCurl (02/12/11 10:37 PM)

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Re: Break Action Singles [Re: Photog]
      #220304 - 26/11/12 10:31 PM

As Huvius said in his original post, the English tip open single shot rifles are rare, rare, rare. The Contintentals are not common, but certainly more so than the Brits.

His Rigby is the only Brit rifle on this thread so far. Now let me present its older brother:



The brother has his own thread at this link:

John Rigby & Co. 40-70 Bottle Neck Single Shot Rifle #15130

These truly are magic!

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Borovnik Hahn Ischler Kipplaufstutzen [Re: CptCurl]
      #220497 - 29/11/12 07:32 AM

A break open single shot rifle made in Ferlach by Ludwig BOROVNIK, finished and scoped by DORLEAC.
That kind of rifle originated in the Bad Ischl area, in upper Austria, Province of Salsburg.
For a continental chamois hunter it's the epitome of the light and handy mountain rifle.
The rebounding hammer sidelock is the safest system for a rifle that is carried loaded during long stalk and cocked only before the shot.
That one, in stuzen form (stocked to the muzzle) sports a Bölher "Super Blitz" 23" monobloc barrel, chambered for the 6,5x57R cartridge and fitted to a typical rounded Ischler action. The bolting is by means of two Purdey type under lugs with a sort of doll head.
The classic stock was made from a very dense piece of French walnut and the traditional Austrian engraving is from the hands of OBILTSCHNIG.
We have finished the in the white barrel, fitting the sights and the Swarovski scope on special reduced "Ferlacher Art" hand made claw mounts.
Hubert DAMPERAT, a young talented French engraver, did the rib engraving in the same style, then all parts were slow rust blued.
That rifle weights only 6lb 8oz and prints cloverleaves with RWS 8,2g KS.
Sorry for by bad English…hope you will enjoy.

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Re: Borovnik Hahn Ischler Kipplaufstutzen [Re: DORLEAC]
      #220503 - 29/11/12 08:52 AM

Just magnificent..

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Re: Break Action Singles [Re: bakposten]
      #220505 - 29/11/12 09:33 AM

That's one beautiful rifle. Thanks for sharing the photos.

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Re: Break Action Singles [Re: CptCurl]
      #220510 - 29/11/12 11:04 AM

How we perseived a rifle is a personal 'thing'.

I find the 'rosette' on the forend of that Ferlach rifle, an interesting use of horn, but I do not like it, however, it's interesting, none the less.

I feel it detracts from an otherwise excellent rifle's, 'work' and lines.

Sorry, but I find it quite ugly, along with that weird schnable 1/2 way down the forend - a really nice looking rifle would have been escalated to a MOST BEAUTIFUL Rifle, without those uhg, features - imho.

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Re: Break Action Singles [Re: DarylS]
      #220512 - 29/11/12 11:42 AM

Beauty is most certainly in the "Eye of the beholder" The schnable 1/2 way down the forend is classic, as seen in the Oberndorf Mauser S carbine.

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Re: Break Action Singles [Re: FrankFarmer]
      #220564 - 30/11/12 12:20 AM

Beautiful, love the work, like the schnable actually. Do agree with Daryl about the rosette, not my cup of tea but I am sure the lucky owner will love it.

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Re: Break Action Singles [Re: Photog]
      #220565 - 30/11/12 12:24 AM

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Here is one that came close, too bad they don't make it anymore. This one happened to have around a 10LB trigger so I traded it for a custom long bow.



This Savage 219 is the same vintage as the one in caliber .22 Hornet I bought from a friend in 1958. I ended up having it rechambered in .219 Zipper and it accounted for its share of crows and groundhogs. I bought another .22 Hornet and had it rechambered to K Hornet, my first experience with an "improved" cartridge. At that point I was introduced to the world of falling block single shot rifles, and with my first Winchester High Wall my interest in break action single shots waned. I do have a sadly mutilated H&H rook rifle awaiting resurrection, but that's another story.

(Incidentally, the trigger on the Savage 219 was capable of a very nice pull, if worked over by a gunsmith who knew how to do it.)

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Re: Break Action Singles [Re: DarylS]
      #220566 - 30/11/12 12:35 AM

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I find the 'rosette' on the forend of that Ferlach rifle, an interesting use of horn, but I do not like it, however, it's interesting, none the less.

I feel it detracts from an otherwise excellent rifle's, 'work' and lines.

Sorry, but I find it quite ugly, along with that weird schnable 1/2 way down the forend - a really nice looking rifle would have been escalated to a MOST BEAUTIFUL Rifle, without those uhg, features - imho.



The "rosette" is a nod to the traditional which would be more in keeping with a horn grip cap, butt plate and a Bavarian cheekpiece. On this rifle, it reminds me of someone wearing cowboy boots with white tie and tails. It is otherwise a beautiful piece of workmanship and I have no objection to the secondary schnabel on the fore end, seeing that all three of my Oberndorf Model S carbines have the same feature.

I have a hard time imagining that rifle being taken along on a really arduous mountain hunt.

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Re: Break Action Singles [Re: xausa]
      #220588 - 30/11/12 03:01 AM

About that Hahn Ischler Kipplaufstutzen by Borovnik, you must consider that it’s a “traditional” rifle and even if it could be disliked, the front schnabel made of a roe deer antler base is as old as that kind of rifle, its function being to hook the barrel to the loden backpack when aiming upward in an steeply slope.
The middle schnabel is of use to the same function, on the middle of the two parts forearm, and on that kipplauf it ends the removable forend that is finished with an slanted slim slab of black horn.
Relating to the stock, the cheekpiece shape know as “Bavarian” is German, not Austrian, and to my knowledge, with its egg shaped cheekpiece, the overall rendering of the stock is truly “Ischler” styled, all the fittings, grip cap and butt plate, being made in black horn.
Also, having worked on and shot it, it’s an extremely well balanced light rifle, and contrarily to what could think of someone’s, it will be used without special care to hunt in mountain…it has been made for hunt and it must be used for hunt, not for show!
When I look at a rifle I try to understand what in its origins conducts to its shape. Even if I’m not too fond of lever rifles I kindly recognize the value of a good pre-war Winchester, Marlin or Savage but I will never compare the later to a Schöenauer.
Now I owe to the true to admit that I prefer the clean lines of a pre-war English rifle…those who have seen the kind of rifles we make know that we are on the severely classic side… !

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Re: Break Action Singles [Re: DORLEAC]
      #220697 - 01/12/12 11:59 AM

That is a beautiful rifle, my friend! To be expected when it comes from your atelier, of course!

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Re: Break Action Singles [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #220763 - 02/12/12 11:41 AM

I have to agree that the antler burr on the muzzle end is not my cup of tea, even if it has a purpose. The overall rifle is magnificant though.
Bob

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Re: Break Action Singles [Re: aromakr]
      #220890 - 04/12/12 01:12 PM

Luxus is a new company in Ohio building very accurate break action rifles with outstanding wood.
I used one last month on an Ibex in Kyrgyzstan and was quite pleased. Hope to take a caribou this month around our cabin at Circle Hot springs.



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Re: Break Action Singles [Re: Viking338]
      #220908 - 04/12/12 08:50 PM

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Beautiful, love the work, like the schnable actually. Do agree with Daryl about the rosette, not my cup of tea but I am sure the lucky owner will love it.



I am tempted to compare this new rifle with my Austrian rifle built in 1896:
http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat....true#Post177726

An "Ischler Stutzen" or anything made to imitate one simply has to have the horn rosette.....

About the "half-stock schnabel" I think this also is a citation or a memory from days gone by: this is where the first ramrod pipe used to be on a muzzleloader.
Or the lever you see on my rifle, for the latch fastening the forend to the barrel.

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Re: Break Action Singles [Re: fuhrmann]
      #220919 - 05/12/12 02:36 AM

Good picture there Phil, and a good looking rifle too. Boy, your practical and commonsense writing is sorely missed these days in the publications! Too many writers are lacking in both departments.

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Re: Break Action Singles [Re: 458Win]
      #253432 - 11/09/14 06:18 AM

Quote:

Luxus is a new company in Ohio building very accurate break action rifles with outstanding wood.
I used one last month on an Ibex in Kyrgyzstan and was quite pleased. Hope to take a caribou this month around our cabin at Circle Hot springs.





Fantastic ibex! I enjoyed your article on that rifle which coincidentally is available on the preview for Rifle #273 (March 2014) here http://www.riflemagazine.com/magazine/pdf/ri273partial.pdf

Edited by CptCurl (17/09/14 09:24 PM)

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Re: Break Action Singles [Re: JabaliHunter]
      #253433 - 11/09/14 06:30 AM

Johan Fanzoj latest incarnation of the single shot - complete with integral rib and rib extension, kippblock mechanism, thumb cocking safety and underlever opening. Almost like a hybrid Rigby-Bissel rising bite and k95 tilting block! A real beauty...

http://www.fanzoj.com/en/gunroom/custom_..._rifle_new.html











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Re: Break Action Singles [Re: JabaliHunter]
      #253449 - 11/09/14 05:16 PM

Love the Dorleac but again I am no fan of the horn tip, lovely otherwise though, best, Mike

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Re: Break Action Singles [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #253454 - 11/09/14 11:43 PM

Here is another one, showing the sorry fate of so many German guns after WW2. It is a simple break-open underlever single shot of the “Tell type”, called so after such a model offered by Sauer & Sohn, Suhl. These simple rifles were a staple of the Zella – Mehlis guntrade, coming in many grades from many different makers. Mine was made in Zella – Mehlis and proofed there in 1926. It was signed and retailed by G.L. Rasch in Brunswick, the last of the Rasch gunmaking dynasty there until bombed out in 1944. (BTW, Heinrich Ludwig Rasch, Langer Hof, Brunswick about 1830 made rifle barrels to Captain Berner’s two-groove design for British army tests, hence the designation “Brunswick Rifle”). The full octagonal barrel is chambered for the 6.5x52R aka .25-35 Winchester cartridge. The action shows some border engraving and the G.L.Rasch, Braunschweig address. In 1945 it was smashed by some GI, stock and underlever broken and the muzzle heavily damaged. The next 40 years the parts spent in a dark corner of a barn, rusting and rotting away. In 1987 the sorry remains fell into my hands. I took pity with the poor junk and repaired it to working condition. Because of the hopeless muzzle the barrel was shortened to 55 cm = 22” and restraightened. I welded a new handle to the underlever and repaired the broken stock. As you see, I over-reinforced it, but I did not know better then. A small, 22 mm = 7/8” tube, 4x Wetzlar scope was mounted. Last I reblued and refinished it, but without trying to file out the rust pits. Weight now, with scope, is exactly 3 kg = 6.7 pounds. With it’s pet load, 87gr Hornady or Speer in front of 26gr VV N140, it shoots inside 5 cm = 2” at 100m all day, if I do my job. Shot a few roe deer and several foxes with it, but use it mostly for fun on targets.


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Re: Break Action Singles [Re: kuduae]
      #253459 - 12/09/14 01:54 AM

Westley Richards .360 Single Shot Varmint Rifle made in 1923


Westley Richards Rook & Rabbit Rifle with original telescope


From the Westley Richards blog http://www.theexplora.com/

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