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Scott
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drilling question
      #187646 - 09/08/11 11:15 AM

I need some help to resolve a dispute about drillings. Is anyone aware if a drilling has ever been made as an over/under/under, a triple stacked barrel. Sorry for the incorrect terminology.

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Re: drilling question [Re: Scott]
      #187649 - 09/08/11 11:36 AM


When you have a Shotgun and 2 rifles of different calibres, they can and have put them VIRTUALLY on top of each other, the small rifle being in the middle but slightly to one side.

I am not sure if anyone has ever made a 3 stacked o/u/u.

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Re: drilling question [Re: 500Nitro]
      #187651 - 09/08/11 11:51 AM

"500"
I have seen those as well (is that a "verling" ). But, they are offset a bit , I would assume this is more for the action than the bbls. Also have seen some drillings with a .22 in top rib.
Robert

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Re: drilling question [Re: bwanabobftw]
      #187652 - 09/08/11 11:59 AM

Not sure if it is the "verling", I am no expert on drillings, I just know of that one as I have looked at that configuration once before a long time ago when looking (or searching for) triple barrel shotguns and it popped up.

Might be worth doing a search yourself along the same lines and see what comes up.

Edited by 500Nitro (09/08/11 12:25 PM)

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Re: drilling question [Re: 500Nitro]
      #187653 - 09/08/11 12:15 PM

I'm no expert on the drillings either , but I find them very interesting !!! And, I have always thought they make a lot of sense for Africa.
Robert

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Re: drilling question [Re: bwanabobftw]
      #187654 - 09/08/11 12:20 PM

500
I just looked it up, the 4 bbl. is a "vierling" and 3 bbl. always a drilling ( no matter what the cal. or gauge configuration).
Robert

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Re: drilling question [Re: bwanabobftw]
      #187657 - 09/08/11 01:11 PM

Gentlemen,

The drilling configuration that 500Nitro is referring to is called a "Bockdrilling" with bock in this instance meaning over/under, such as "Bockdoppelbuchse" (O/U double rifle), "Bockbuchsflinte" (typically a shotgun barrel over a rifle barrel), and of course "Bockdoppelflinte" (O/U double barreled shotgun). I have a bit of a mess in my den at the moment but I will see about taking a picture or two of a Franz Sodia I have configured as a 16ga over a 7X57R with a .22LR staggered alongside and between the shot barrel and larger rifle barrel. Now if Scott is referring to a combination where the three barrels are stacked vertically and inline I have not seen one. Perhaps Kuduae or another very knowledgeable of these things has seen such a creation and will comment.

I have to think that a gun with three rifle barrels across, three rifle barrels configured such as a more conventional drilling (SXS with one below) and even with the third barrel on top have been seen on NE before ... perhaps not but they do exist.

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Re: drilling question [Re: Scott]
      #187663 - 09/08/11 03:52 PM

Quote:

I need some help to resolve a dispute about drillings. Is anyone aware if a drilling has ever been made as an over/under/under, a triple stacked barrel. Sorry for the incorrect terminology.



Hi Scott,
The answer is yes, stack barrel drillings do exist.
Here is a link to one built by Johann Fanzoj.
Stack Barrel Drilling

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Re: drilling question [Re: 4seventy]
      #187688 - 10/08/11 12:53 AM

4seventy,

I had forgotten about Johnann's (Fanzoj) work and sure enough ... thanks. Do you know if JF is the same outfit that had made the three across rifle as well? I don't see it on his website, and I went digging for a bit.

Buchseman

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Scott
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Re: drilling question [Re: Buchsemann]
      #187706 - 10/08/11 07:36 AM

Thank you all for the help and information. It has been most usefull. Gorgeous triple stack on that webpage. I hate to even think of the cost.

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Re: drilling question [Re: Buchsemann]
      #187707 - 10/08/11 07:51 AM

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4seventy,

I had forgotten about Johnann's (Fanzoj) work and sure enough ... thanks. Do you know if JF is the same outfit that had made the three across rifle as well? I don't see it on his website, and I went digging for a bit.

Buchseman



Hi Buchseman,
I'm not sure if JF ever built a 3 barrel SxS rifle drilling.

Here is a link to a Dickson 16 bore SxS drilling from the late 1800's.
It's a sidelever action with many interesting features.
3 Barrels Side by Side

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