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Re: Col Allisons 300 H&H Soroka 07 [Re: 500Nitro]
      #185980 - 17/07/11 09:46 AM

I believe it's "deemed safe" according to the whim of officialdom. Many years ago I heard of a Purdey stock being damaged when subjected to a "drop test". (by a drop kick no doubt)

Edited by kamilaroi (17/07/11 09:47 AM)

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Re: Col Allisons 300 H&H Soroka 07 [Re: sirrocco]
      #185985 - 17/07/11 12:34 PM

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Does anyone know what the requiresments are regarding Aussie rules?
Thanks




That it passes the drop test. Yes, really scientific !

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Re: Col Allisons 300 H&H Soroka 07 [Re: 500Nitro]
      #186004 - 17/07/11 08:28 PM

I know for a fact that a rubber mallet was being used against the action to see if it would fire. The reason I know is that an importer known to me told me he saw it being done when he was collecting firearms.

It was only then he realised that a number of shotguns he had returned to the makers for dings in the rib were actually caused by Customs, my understanding is they settled up on damages, not sure if the mallet is still in use.

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Re: Col Allisons 300 H&H Soroka 07 [Re: portdivers]
      #186007 - 17/07/11 09:28 PM

I thought it must be quite a refined and intelligent test.. As we all know the first thing we must do when we load a rifle is to smack the side of the receiver with a mallet for good measure and/or bang the butt on the ground a few times, before sighting and firing. It never ceases to amaze me that as soon as you put a clown in a special costume with stripes, badges and the power of the State that they assume the position of ultimate authority and start exerting it, any which way they se fit. God help us all....
Where does it end?

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Re: Col Allisons 300 H&H Soroka 07 [Re: sirrocco]
      #186030 - 18/07/11 09:46 AM

I was in line at an Airline ticket counter going to Africa a few years ago . The guy in front of me was a bowhunter, when he put his bow case on the counter he told the agent it was a bow not a gun. She asked him," is it loaded..." !!!!!! You are right "God help us all ..."
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PS, Very nice guns !!!!

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Re: Col Allisons 300 H&H Soroka 07 [Re: 500Nitro]
      #186044 - 18/07/11 01:16 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Does anyone know what the requiresments are regarding Aussie rules?
Thanks




That it passes the drop test. Yes, really scientific !



Was reading somewhere of the engineer that came up with an adjustable trigger system on the Savage 110 rifles circa 1970s from memory. What killed it was the legal requirement to be set to 10lb ... for Australian custom officials.
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Re: Col Allisons 300 H&H Soroka 07 [Re: Con]
      #186049 - 18/07/11 06:20 PM

Well I hope there is some consistency in the Australian legal system and that all the armed offender, swat and sniping units have rifles fitted with triggers that are around the 10 lbs. As the old legal maxim states- "all are equal before the law". Hmmmm.
Probably about time to dust off the old guillotine and remind some of those what happens when they get the pendulum swinging too far past the middle. The old PTB's (powers that be) are aware of what is commonly referred to as the "revolution line", whereby you dont piss off the masses to the extent they get Madame guillotine out, and revolt. It seems to me they might be treading a fairly fine line in some parts of the world these days.

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Re: Col Allisons 300 H&H Soroka 07 [Re: sirrocco]
      #186050 - 18/07/11 07:07 PM

^ as I understand it the regs require "safe operation". Therefore subject to bureaucratic whim.

FWIW I once had a Hammerli Olympia target model. I think it broke at abt 8oz with no creep. Perhaps it's the lack of creep that spins them out, no?

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Re: Col Allisons 300 H&H Soroka 07 [Re: 500Nitro]
      #189575 - 10/09/11 11:04 AM

Sirrocco,
Thank you so much for the phenomenal photos, I had just convinced myself I did not need one of these beauties and now you have changed my mind once again! Your thoughts on a 450/400 3"? I guess the only thing else to ask is how many original "Farqs" in this caliber are still out there- say none and I will put in a call to NECG. My sincere and respectful regards- beautiful work.

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Re: Col Allisons 300 H&H Soroka 07 [Re: CWJ1898]
      #189638 - 11/09/11 11:37 AM

Hi CWJ, Glad you enjoyed the pics. The rifles are beautiful to say the least. A lot of heart and soul goes into each and everyone. They arent inexpensive but they are worth every penny if single shot masterpieces are what light your fire.

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Re: Col Allisons 300 H&H Soroka 07 [Re: sirrocco]
      #189675 - 11/09/11 02:24 PM

Sirrocco,
Indeed they do light my fire, quite explosively I might add! I have shelved the idea of taking my .404 Jeffrey Mauser on a buffalo hunt and now will devise a plan to take one of yours in its stead. My respectful regards to you and your continued success.

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Re: Col Allisons 300 H&H Soroka 07 [Re: 500Nitro]
      #266047 - 07/06/15 11:15 AM

You don't see too many 300 H&Hs out in the field here in the states. Great cartridge. Last one I saw was on my outfitter's rifle in B.C. over 15 years ago.

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Re: Col Allisons 300 H&H Soroka 07 [Re: mikeh416Rigby]
      #266050 - 07/06/15 03:36 PM

Only $18,500.00 U.S ! i wish i was a rich bastard ! Guns that make you go MMMMMMMMMMMMMM !!!!

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Re: Col Allisons 300 H&H Soroka 07 [Re: 500Boswell]
      #269046 - 08/08/15 11:39 AM

Absolutely stunning!A real masterpiece!

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Re: Col Allisons 300 H&H Soroka 07 [Re: bwanabobftw]
      #269047 - 08/08/15 11:53 AM

People wonder why years ago they didnt want to give women the vote

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Re: Col Allisons 300 H&H Soroka 07 [Re: 500Boswell]
      #269078 - 09/08/15 08:37 AM

G'Day Fella's,

Mmmmmmmmmmm Donuts!

Doh!
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Re: Col Allisons 300 H&H Soroka 07 [Re: Homer]
      #384974 - 26/05/24 01:17 PM

Does anyone know if it’s possible to still get one of these rifles or if you can buy an action to build on?

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Re: Col Allisons 300 H&H Soroka 07 [Re: zhaba]
      #385365 - 21/06/24 02:45 AM

This one is probably for sale right now.

https://usedguns.com.au/gun/642473/



Calibre/Item: 300 H&H

Make: Soroka

Model: 7 Farquarson

Action: Falling block

Scope: Leica

Serial No: 18

Condition: Excellent

Phone: 0400646647

Price: $37500

Licence Number: 406910928

Advertised: 14/06/2024

Comment: Stunning Soroka Farquarson rifle in a classic calibre. Fully engraved in English scroll, and case hardened including talley rings, spectacular Turkish walnut stock. This is a spectacular modern rifle with a faithful but modernised Farquarson action. There were less than 20 of these ever made and there will be no more. Surely the only one in Australia. You’re chance to own a superlative rifle.

Transferring Dealer:
Private Ad State: NSW

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Re: Col Allisons 300 H&H Soroka 07 [Re: NitroX]
      #385366 - 21/06/24 08:02 AM

While its obviously a magnificent rifle I think the price might be somewhat fanciful.

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Re: Col Allisons 300 H&H Soroka 07 [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #385371 - 21/06/24 04:34 PM

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... I think the price might be somewhat fanciful.




I think that about most of the usedguns listings. Guns that were purchased for $800, listed for $1,800 or $2,500.

Maybe I need to start buying, holding for ten years, reselling for double. Or holding for two years ...

Not much evidence of WA gun sales yet, of "excess" to legal quotas.

I looked at SKK magazines being sold. People are still buying them. $350. One or two mags? Two in the pictures but description says "magazine". I could sell mine and afford to buy an AIA 7.62x39 at a decent price - $1,600 to as much as $2,500, would have cost $800 new. But the magazines would fit the AIA purchased, and the reason I want an AIA.

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But if you want a Soroka, this may be one of extremely rare opportunities.

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Edited by NitroX (21/06/24 04:37 PM)

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Re: Col Allisons 300 H&H Soroka 07 [Re: 500Nitro]
      #385374 - 22/06/24 05:04 AM

Gorgeous, classic rifles! And paired with the .300 H&H, it seems to me to be a perfect match. Thanks for sharing!






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Re: Col Allisons 300 H&H Soroka 07 [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #385376 - 22/06/24 05:50 PM

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While its obviously a magnificent rifle I think the price might be somewhat fanciful.

Matt.



Matt,

I was thinking about this and the fact the making the Sorokas was terminated, presumably financial reasons?

The above price is a fraction the big name UK gun makers would ask. Ferlach gun makers as well.

The big name makers may not not make many a year, only the high prices must make it worthwhile.

Not having seen it in person, the Soroka looks of equivalent standard, just not the name.

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Re: Col Allisons 300 H&H Soroka 07 [Re: NitroX]
      #385382 - 23/06/24 10:36 AM

Yeah I understand your point, however I just don't think that a Falling Block rifle which isn't made by an English gunmaker will be very easy to sell at that price here in Australia regardless of how nice and well made it is. Especially as this one has no open sights, and although the owner would probably never use them, it just finishes the appearance of the rifle. A Falling Block rifle without open sights just looks wrong, as if something is missing. Of course they could be added later but that's more money.

The Saroka action is a beauty and solves many of the problems of the original action however they were expensive to produce and Glen only wanted to sell whole completed rifles built and finished in NZ. I spoke to him a number of times as I was interested in buying one but he wouldn't sell just an action and the extractor was designed for rimless cartridges and he wouldn't make an extractor for a flanged round. I eventually gave up.

From memory, as it was probably fifteen years ago that I spoke to him, the Single Shot Action was just a side show as he had other businesses which made him actual money. Thats probably why there were no more than 20. He was a very nice chap to talk to though.

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