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gryphon
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Tanzania /tough on the wallet
      #175066 - 08/02/11 04:07 AM

Africa Hunting : Tanzania: Tourist hunters to `dig deeper` as govt ups fees
on 2011/2/7
Tourist hunters will have to dig deeper into their pockets following the government’s decision to hike the hunting permit fee for its hunting blocks from $27,000 to $60,000 for category I, according to the new guideline issued yesterday.

Minister for Natural Resources and Tourism Ezekiel Maige told a press conference in Dar es Salaam that the government has responded to the public outcry by increasing the number of hunting blocks from 158 to 190 and has also categorised the hunting blocks into five depending on the type and number of animals to be hunted.

He said those who are interested and are competent can submit their formal application for hunting permits after the government would have advertised the blocks in widely circulating newspapers from February 10, 2011 for the 2013-2018 term.

“Let me clear rumours doing the rounds that the Minister had allocated some hunting blocks already. I am a man of integrity and value transparency and accountability,” said Maige.

The Minister however said the wildlife conservation (Tourist Hunting) regulations 2010 have categorised hunting blocks in accordance with grade points average whereby category I has 24 blocks hunting permit fee $60,000, category II has 95 blocks and its hunting fee is $30,000.

Others include category III with 18 blocks attracting a hunting fee of $18,000, whereas in category IV with 8 hunting blocks attracts a fee of $10,000 and the last category with 8 blocks the hunters will have to pay a fee of $5,000.

According to the minister, the grade point has been done in accordance with the species and number of animals to be hunted and whether it has wildlife resources for sustainable tourist hunting and a diverse animal species and habitat.

Its accessibility in terms of terrain and infrastructure from Dar es Salaam, reliable water supply and the scope of human activities are among factors taken into consideration, according to Minister Maige.

Elaborating, Minister Maige said in establishing a hunting block the boundaries of the proposed block is clearly demarcated by Global Positioning System (GPS) according to its potential for wildlife recovery upon a given time frame and investment.

Responding to reporters’ questions, Director of Wildlife Erastus Tarimo revealed that for the hunting season that began in July 2010 to-date, the government has generated Sh52bn as direct fee.

He said applicants who are Tanzanians are required to produce a bank bond of guarantee to the tune of at least $300,000 and for a foreign owned hunting company a bank bond of $1,000,000 is required as a guarantee.


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Re: Tanzania /tough on the wallet [Re: gryphon]
      #175074 - 08/02/11 07:06 AM

Tanzania was where I wanted to go to hunt Cape Buffalo but it was already a lot dearer than somewhere like Zim.
This won't help.

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Re: Tanzania /tough on the wallet [Re: gryphon]
      #175098 - 08/02/11 05:13 PM

Milking that cow dry is probably the national sport in Africa second to rape.

The last two years wasnt good for outfitters in Tanzania now what ????

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Re: Tanzania /tough on the wallet [Re: SafariHunt]
      #175122 - 09/02/11 02:36 AM

Tanzania can bite me---

been checking around on the costs of hunts...many other places one can go --and still hunt free roaming game for much less money...

the old saying.."the difference between a pig and a hog..pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered" would seem to apply here...

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Re: Tanzania /tough on the wallet [Re: Ripp]
      #175184 - 09/02/11 10:06 PM

Gryph,

I would love to hunt in Tanzania for cape buffalo, or a full bag 21 day hunt! But alas not for us mere mortals. A short cape buffalo hunt might be possible. Elsewhere is probably cheaper and better value for money.

When I win lotto, want to come along?!

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Re: Tanzania /tough on the wallet [Re: NitroX]
      #175199 - 10/02/11 04:20 AM

The greed applied to licences,tags and what ever else is required to hunt many parts of the world today will kill the golden goose eventually.

These price rises will only further it as the big boys club.... the amount of money they have gets them into it.

I would have no worries heading off to Africa but to hunt free roamers where the animals haven't been bought under the auction system and released on X amount of acres.


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Re: Tanzania /tough on the wallet [Re: gryphon]
      #175224 - 10/02/11 03:12 PM

It's not just in Tanzania. Yesterday I went to the Eastern Pennsylvania Sportsmans Show in Harrisburg, Pa and ran into an outfitter from South Africa who is charging $600.00 U.S. per day, plus trophy fees to hunt Plains Game. His trophy fees were off the chart too: $400.00 for a Common Springbok, $550 for Impala, $2000.00 for Gemsbok,$2500.00 for a Kudu less than 50 inches, $3000.00 for one 50 to 55 inches, and $4000.00 over 55 inches, $3500.00 for Nyala, and $5000.00 for a Giraffe. I asked him what drugs he was on, and he just laughed, thinking I was kidding. Just for shits and giggles I asked what he charged for a Sable,and they go for $15,000.00 if under 40 inches, and $18,500.00 over 40.

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Re: Tanzania /tough on the wallet [Re: mikeh416Rigby]
      #175240 - 10/02/11 05:20 PM

I digress....I know its not Tanzania but Markhor are bringing $55000,like come on! I know of their rarity etc getting the goss from my SCI membership mags but F%$#

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Re: Tanzania /tough on the wallet [Re: gryphon]
      #175253 - 10/02/11 06:23 PM

Well if you believe the economists, demand will decline as they price themselves out of reach and prices will fall.

There is always someone who will try to undercut the others. Finding them may need some effort however.


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Re: Tanzania /tough on the wallet [Re: tophet1]
      #175371 - 12/02/11 06:50 AM

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Well if you believe the economists, demand will decline as they price themselves out of reach and prices will fall.

There is always someone who will try to undercut the others. Finding them may need some effort however.




I agree with most of that.

Prices displayed are variable once negotiated as usual though. Luckily I was able to put together some nice hunts with some of the best PH's in the business for what I thought was a fair deal at SCI this year. Everyone was in a dealing mood thankfully.


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Re: Tanzania /tough on the wallet [Re: ]
      #175376 - 12/02/11 07:45 AM

I'm sure things are tight in that industry. I know one exhibitor who normally avoids the shows like the plague.

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Re: Tanzania /tough on the wallet [Re: tophet1]
      #175384 - 12/02/11 09:40 AM

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I'm sure things are tight in that industry. I know one exhibitor who normally avoids the shows like the plague.




For some but others are totally sold out now.


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Re: Tanzania /tough on the wallet [Re: ]
      #175388 - 12/02/11 10:19 AM

Yes, Some company's seem to struggle selling their quota yet a lot are doing very well.
My usual guy couldn't even offer me a Leopard from his block as they are sold out.


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Re: Tanzania /tough on the wallet [Re: ozhunter]
      #175494 - 14/02/11 02:31 PM

I think there is just a small downturn in the US safari market currently, but the trend will continue upwards.

Simple supply and demand.

Supply gets smaller and smaller over the decades. Hunting fields get closed by greenie interference, species suffer a decline because of human encroachment, African gov'ts get greedier and even more corrupt.

Some new hunting fields such as Sudan and Uganda, even Angola (!), but they also tend to be higher priced safaris anyway.

Supply decreases.

Meanwhile more and more people find whitetail hunting from a tree stand boring and become a little more adventurous and do a safari in Africa. Cheaper and cheaper airfares. More and more safari shows, DVDs, TV shows in the USA.

Demand increases.

The global financial crisis may be affecting the US and EU economies, and so depressing consumption somewhat.

On the plus side, outfitters catering to the US market might often charge high prices. Some outfitters cater to other markets and often their prices are more reasonable. Same as some of the outfitters selling a lot in the US are willing to do deals as well.

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Re: Tanzania /tough on the wallet [Re: NitroX]
      #175496 - 14/02/11 03:08 PM

One thing you guys are forgetting from down under is that at the moment your Dollar is on par with the US dollar so there wasnt a better time for you to book a hunt actually.

John sell some wine and come hunt something again :-)

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Re: Tanzania /tough on the wallet [Re: SafariHunt]
      #175499 - 14/02/11 05:00 PM

Fred,

Unfortunately the STRONG Aussie dollar hurts me too.

When we had US$0.80 to A$1.00. Now we have $A1 to $US1 meaning 25% less value!

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Re: Tanzania /tough on the wallet [Re: NitroX]
      #175504 - 14/02/11 06:40 PM

Carp!

The AUD has appreciated against all major trading currencies.


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Re: Tanzania /tough on the wallet [Re: kamilaroi]
      #175510 - 14/02/11 09:16 PM

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Carp!

The AUD has appreciated against all major trading currencies.




? ? ?

"Carp?" Whatever that means?

Exporters make less $A as a result of the $A strengthening. Pretty obvious.

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Re: Tanzania /tough on the wallet [Re: NitroX]
      #175511 - 14/02/11 09:35 PM

John.
I only understand english as well.

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Re: Tanzania /tough on the wallet [Re: FATBOY404]
      #175554 - 15/02/11 06:25 PM

Maybe he meant to say "Crap"???

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Re: Tanzania /tough on the wallet [Re: 450_Ackley]
      #175594 - 16/02/11 03:32 AM


I wonder if one could hunt some "border-buffalos" from the Zambian north border ..hahahaha


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Re: Tanzania /tough on the wallet [Re: rigbymauser]
      #175632 - 16/02/11 05:15 PM

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I wonder if one could hunt some "border-buffalos" from the Zambian north border ..hahahaha



There is some hunting areas in Zam not far from the border. I myself will be content chasing Buffalo and Sable 85kms south of Tanz in July.


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