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vegard_dino
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8.15 x 46 R, today?
      #174119 - 26/01/11 05:25 AM



Hello all.

Good to have the forum back.
Here I am, with more caliber questions.

The 8.15 x 46 R, how is it for hunting today? Are there brass around?
I believe it was a short range caliber for roe deer, small game and maybe even wild boar.

Hope to hear from some who knows more about it than me.

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Re: 8.15 x 46 R, today? [Re: vegard_dino]
      #174121 - 26/01/11 05:53 AM

the Frohn cartridge was a target cartridge but see also limited use in hunting rifle's. by german standard its a roedeer cartridge only and not powerful enough for more. must be 20 years now that RWS stops production of the softpoint load but RWS brass must be still around.

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Re: 8.15 x 46 R, today? [Re: vegard_dino]
      #174142 - 26/01/11 09:57 AM

Cases can easily be formed from .30-30 brass. Just run through an 8.15X46 die (best with a tapered expander) and trim to length.

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Re: 8.15 x 46 R, today? [Re: xausa]
      #174164 - 26/01/11 04:55 PM



Thanks for the information.

MAybe better to find a old caliber that was made for hunting, not just a powerful target caliber.
But, still, a interesting old caliber.

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Re: 8.15 x 46 R, today? [Re: vegard_dino]
      #174208 - 27/01/11 05:41 AM

The 8.15x46R Frohn aka "Deutsche Schützenhülse" was the standard German target cartridge and the only one much reloaded pre-WW2. The ammunition companies sold factory-swaged lead bullets in many shapes, as well as pre-packed smokeless powder charges. The photoshows such an old reload: a nickeled case by RWS, a #16 11g bullet by Egestorff in Hanover-Linden and a powder charge packed in thin paper. The reddish stamp on the charge reads " 0.7 g / P / Pulver". These loads allowed the cheapest centerfire target shooting. The cases were rarely resized, so reloading required only a thong-type Berdan de-recapper. The powder charges were insered into the case and the lead bullets seated by hand.The guiding band on the bullet prevented it from falling into the expanded case and the bullet lube from falling out again.

In old catalogs you often read the monicker "Keilerbüchse" = boar rifle for rifles so chambered. These were never meant to shoot at living wild boar, but were specialized target rifles, shaped like stalking rifles, to be used in hunter's target shooting, much of it done at the "running boar target".

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Re: 8.15 x 46 R, today? [Re: kuduae]
      #174210 - 27/01/11 06:37 AM



Oh, great information.

Thanks.

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Re: 8.15 x 46 R, today? [Re: vegard_dino]
      #178653 - 10/04/11 05:36 AM

Gentlemen,

yesterday I bought some boxes of RWS hunting ammunition in 8,15x46 R (manufactured before 1990) with the 151grs RWS soft point flat nose hunting bullet.

If anyone wants dimensions or weights on cartridges or components, I can provide.

I hope to aquire a single shot hunting rifle in this caliber soon, then I will measure the factory ammunition for velocity.

best regards
Rolf

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