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jc5
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History of Silver's recoil pads
      #167451 - 09/09/10 09:23 AM

Can someone please provide info on the history of S.W. Silver's orange/red recoil pads?
About what year did they first appear? What sorts of rifles and calibers typically had them? Were they more common on shotguns than rifles? What gunmakers offered them?

A friend and I were recently discussing whether they were the correct "vintage" for a 1940s sporting Mauser and whether it would have been considered appropriate to fit one to a rifle in .30-06, or whether they were mostly used on the bigger bores.

I suppose old catalogues and period photos would be the best evidence for how and when they were used, because someone could always fit one decades later, depending on how tastes changed.

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Re: History of Silver's recoil pads [Re: jc5]
      #167457 - 09/09/10 11:21 AM

I think they started abt 1880.

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Re: History of Silver's recoil pads [Re: kamilaroi]
      #167465 - 09/09/10 04:27 PM

From what I have heard, they weren't made to reduce recoil but to extend the stocks for people with longer length of pull.

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Re: History of Silver's recoil pads [Re: ozhunter]
      #167482 - 09/09/10 11:01 PM

Quote:

From what I have heard, they weren't made to reduce recoil but to extend the stocks for people with longer length of pull.



Could be right, thats the only thing they do well.

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Re: History of Silver's recoil pads [Re: jc5]
      #167502 - 10/09/10 08:01 AM

Winchester used them on rifles up to around 1920, when they started installing mostly trademarked Winchester pads that looked very similar (they would install others on request). They're rare on Winchesters though, with very few having been factory installed.

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Re: History of Silver's recoil pads [Re: taw1126]
      #167721 - 14/09/10 04:31 AM

http://www.google.com/patents?id=AmtIAAA...pad&f=false

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Re: History of Silver's recoil pads [Re: Michael_Petrov]
      #167804 - 15/09/10 06:47 PM

Thanks for the patent link!

Has anyone used one?

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Re: History of Silver's recoil pads [Re: jc5]
      #167817 - 15/09/10 10:08 PM

I had one on a rifle that I bought, and it was like "Tit's on a Bull" useless from a recoil pad point of view but looked nice.

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Anyone have any favorite recoil pads to recommend? [Re: CHAPUISARMES]
      #167833 - 16/09/10 04:30 AM

I notice that a lot of recoil pads seem to harden over the years. A couple on some rifles from the 60s are hard as a rock---couldn't imagine that they helped cushion anything.

Midway and others are selling Silver pads. They are handsome pads, as far as these things go. Has anybody used a relatively new one?

Anyone have any favorite recoil pads to recommend?

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Re: Anyone have any favorite recoil pads to recommend? [Re: jc5]
      #167839 - 16/09/10 06:41 AM

The Old English Decelerator is about as good as they come.

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Re: Anyone have any favorite recoil pads to recommend? [Re: VonGruff]
      #167840 - 16/09/10 06:50 AM

This is a new Silvers on a older G&H. I use the Silvers because they are correct for this vintage rifle not for any recoil absorbing power.



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Re: Anyone have any favorite recoil pads to recommend? [Re: Michael_Petrov]
      #167850 - 16/09/10 08:54 AM

Nice--what are the details on the rifle?

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Re: Anyone have any favorite recoil pads to recommend? [Re: jc5]
      #167868 - 16/09/10 02:05 PM

Griffen and Howe manufacture?

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Re: Anyone have any favorite recoil pads to recommend? [Re: kamilaroi]
      #167869 - 16/09/10 02:32 PM

It's an very early Griffin & Howe rifle that is not marked. The horn Schnabel is S.R. Griffin's work but the overall layout with the long pistol grip and very shot forend are not typical G&H.

The caliber is 30-06 and it still has the Armory barrel. At first I was not enamored with the rifle but after it soaked up some linseed oil and had a new pad fitted, I like it!



Edited by CptCurl (19/09/10 09:28 PM)

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Re: Anyone have any favorite recoil pads to recommend? [Re: Michael_Petrov]
      #167875 - 16/09/10 08:45 PM

G'Day Fella's,

As Von Gruff suggested, the Pachmayer Old English Decelerator, is a good way to go. I have several of these on various rifles. They are now also available in Red/Orange color!

A year or so back, I fitted a 1" Pachmayer "XLT" pad to my Rem Mod 673 in .350 Rem Mag. Now this is one Very Soft recoil pad. You can actually push you finger into it, almost all of it's 1" thickness!
Now Governor Arnold Egginheader might call me a Big Girly Man for fitting one of these to this rifle and I would have to agree! I'm a Really Big Girly Man when it comes to recoil but it subdues the recoil and make this light rifle Reasonably Comfortable to shoot, off the bench!!!

The recoil pads fitted to the current batch of Remington rifles and shotguns and various other brands, is also very good at absorbing recoil. They are made by Sims ?????Laboratory?????? or something similar sounding. You can also purchase these pads as Pre-Fits for a lot of factory rifles and as Grind-To-Fit in three different sizes.

Hope this is of some help.

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Re: Anyone have any favorite recoil pads to recommend? [Re: Homer]
      #167899 - 17/09/10 08:51 AM

Sorbicoil-type pads are the very best at absorbing recoil. Shock-ease is another one. They are black or brown without white spacers.

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Re: Anyone have any favorite recoil pads to recommend? [Re: DarylS]
      #167929 - 17/09/10 10:22 PM

G'Day Fella's,

The correct name for the Pachmayer recoil pad I mentioned above is the "XLT Magnum" and according to Pachmayer, it is 50% softer than the Decelerator pads.
The other pad I mentioned is the "Limbsaver" from Sims Vibration Laboratory.
They are similar in softness.

I have a number of soft recoiling centerfire rifles and rimfires that came from the factory with hard plastic things on their butts. I have replaced all of these with 3/8" thick Pachmayer Std Old English recoil pads. I fit these just so I can lean the rifle up in a corner of a room, with a hard floor and not have it slip/slide and damage the rifle.

Hope this helps.

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