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taw1126
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Question on Type C Army Rifles
      #162576 - 23/06/10 12:37 AM

I've been looking at/for a nice commercial Mauser for a couple of years and I'm about ready to jump into the deep end...right now I'm trying to decide between two very high condition guns, an inter-war Type B and a pre-war Type C. Even though it was originally the less expensive gun, asking price on the Type C is higher (due to the rarity I suppose).

My question relates to the Type C shown in Speed's book on page 111, apparently made as part of the Argentine contract.

I don't have a great understanding of the DMW/Mauser relationship (I think Mauser was owned by/a part of DMW, and Mauser couldn't fill the larger military orders due to much smaller production capacity??). But the German-made military Argentine Mausers I've seen all have the DMW roll mark...I'm trying to figure out why a Type C that was "part" of the Argentine military order would have the commercial Waffenfabrik Mauser-Oberndorf roll mark with a supposedly military contract serial number?

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Re: Question on Type C Army Rifles [Re: taw1126]
      #162595 - 23/06/10 11:10 AM

type c,s are rare ,,but not as nice to look at ,,..theres a type c sitting on simpson ltd. site for 2 years now at 2k,,that seems too high,,although it looks like its all there,, hope yours is a better deal ....paul

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taw1126
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Re: Question on Type C Army Rifles [Re: pjaln]
      #162722 - 25/06/10 01:17 AM

The one Simpson has isn't without it's issues...soldered tangent sight and maybe ~70% condition. The rifle I've been looking at is actually the one pictured in Speed's book- high 90% condition range- but as you said, the Type C's aren't much to look at.

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Re: Question on Type C Army Rifles [Re: taw1126]
      #162902 - 28/06/10 10:53 AM

taw1126,
I have been watching the Type C at Simpson's for quite some time, frankly because it has been the only Type C available for sale (at least the only one I have come across in the past 4 years- and I comb through the dealer sites like one with a heavy stock portfolio combs through the Wall Street Journal). The complex and diverse nature of Mauser's contracts are surely to blame in answering your question. I suppose that a special run of Type Cs were attached to the military contract under the auspices of "meat for the pot" and intended for the quartermasters of the Argentine Army. In reviewing Speed's information on page 111 I noted that the rifle's action was originally made for the Turkish contract (under Mauser and when Mauser could not fulfill the 500 a day quota on the contract DWM stepped in) and chambered in the 7.65x53mm Argentine cartridge. DWM was in fact Mauser's parent company and the take over haunted Herr Mauser to the very end- see "Snake in the Grass" page 29 of Speed's book. I must say were it me I would most definitely lean toward this Type C over the Model B you have as choices. You are quite correct on the rarity standpoint and subsequent higher cost of the Type C, surely it is not as refined as the Model B but you would possess a very rare piece and one featured in the best Mauser Sporting Rifle volume to date. I only wish I were in your dilema!! Best regards.

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