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archeryblackdog
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Scope Mount for Merkel 140-2 .470 NE
      #162256 - 18/06/10 07:45 AM

Hello:

In a previous post I am requesting opinions on a Merkel 140-2 .470 NE; The double is pre owned so its not new; it has a front beed and in the read it has 1 fixed "V Blade" sight and 02 flip up "V Blades" the center rib that runs from the end of the barrels to the front beed of the sight has NO notches or latches or any changes in the geometry that from my perspective would allow for a scope mount.

Can a Scope we installed to it with out mayor modification? is so what kind of mount?
if the rib needs to be drilled and taped or special fabrication by a gunsmith is required, do anyone knows which is the process? and what kind of mount can it be installed?

Also will a scope work well with the regulation of this rifle?

Your help and input is very much appreciated!

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DUGABOY1
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Re: Scope Mount for Merkel 140-2 .470 NE [Re: archeryblackdog]
      #162583 - 23/06/10 07:12 AM

Quote:

Hello:

In a previous post I am requesting opinions on a Merkel 140-2 .470 NE; The double is pre owned so its not new; it has a front beed and in the read it has 1 fixed "V Blade" sight and 02 flip up "V Blades" the center rib that runs from the end of the barrels to the front beed of the sight has NO notches or latches or any changes in the geometry that from my perspective would allow for a scope mount.

Can a Scope we installed to it with out mayor modification? is so what kind of mount?
if the rib needs to be drilled and taped or special fabrication by a gunsmith is required, do anyone knows which is the process? and what kind of mount can it be installed?

Also will a scope work well with the regulation of this rifle?

Your help and input is very much appreciated!



I recieved an E-mail from a gun smith in New Mexico just across the stateline in the pan handle. He is making a mount for the 140-2 rifle using Tally rings that only requires two screw holes in the quarter rib to hold the mount. It replaces the rear sight in the dovetail and a new rear sight is made for the mount, and you get your old sight back. The rifle can be put back to it's origenal condition with only two filler screws to fill the holes in the rib. Give him a shout, and he will send you pictures of the mount. I will try top forward the E-mail to you from my files if you will send me an E-mail at DUGABOY1@aol.com

HisE-mail is elk88101@hotmail.com

Edited by DUGABOY1 (23/06/10 08:01 AM)

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404bearslayer
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Re: Scope Mount for Merkel 140-2 .470 NE [Re: DUGABOY1]
      #162592 - 23/06/10 09:55 AM

Option 1) A regular scope will in most cases throw off regulation, but you might find a 'scope load' if you're a reloader - I did find one after some experimenting. If you consider a scope at all, especially with a fixed mount that eliminates the iron sight option, then I would strongly recommend you install an Aimpoint red-dot scope with x1 magnification. Those are so light that regulation should not be affected, and they will work for fast target acquisition as well as up to 100 yards with no problem. They are parallax-free also (unlike some other red-dot systems).

Option 2) At take-off option exists: Look at the HeymUSA website to see it on their doubles - it is a German claw-type mount that lets you put your scope on and off and does not interfere with the iron sights. However, this is very expensive and should only be done by gunsmiths that know how to do it properly.

Option 3) A .470 is basically a 50 yard gun: I have a detachable scope on it, but I don't even use it anymore even though my eye sight does not allow me to see the rear notch properly anymore. I still am able to hit the '10' at 50 yards - you just develop a proper mount that always stays the same, and then you don't need to see the rear notch anymore, you shoot the gun like a shotgun.

I suggest you shoot your 470 plenty before even considering a scope, it is not needed unless you have really bad eyesight - and then I would go for option 1 ... custom claw mounts or a H&H quick detachable mount will cost almost as much as your gun.

Edited by 404bearslayer (23/06/10 09:55 AM)

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