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Tallchief
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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: DarylS]
      #169099 - 07/10/10 11:17 AM

Jim Allison said they make a 980grn and 860grn in .600, but will make about anything smaller if ordered. Since I am not a ballistician, I am not sure how much smaller one could go without making a bullet too short.

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: Tallchief]
      #169136 - 08/10/10 02:05 AM


The 980 and 860 are designed for the Nitro Express I'm sure. I'd go as light as about 700gr. personally - That's 1.6 ounces. It will be quite short as solid bullets go, but still should shoot just fine.

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: DarylS]
      #170391 - 27/10/10 11:19 PM

Hello,

Update 10/27.

Well after some major upsets and personal tradgedies, life goes on, for some of us.

The Monoblock is prepped and the barrels are contoured and one has been struck.
I hope to get some pictures soon.
The new target I am hoping to hit with the build is early January 2011.

Regards
Nitro

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"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall

45/70 DR / 12ga Paradox
470 NE DR
12 Bore DR
20 Bore DR
450 NE SR
577 NE SR

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: nitro450exp]
      #170533 - 29/10/10 12:46 PM

Press on, I can't wait to see your progress.......Happy Thanksgiving all!!

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: Tallchief]
      #171168 - 09/11/10 02:05 AM

Update 11/8/2010

Well finally some progress pictures:

Deconstructed 16 ga smoothbore barrels.
Monoblock ready to be prepped.



Blank barrel, rough contour blank.



One contoured and one roughed blank.
One rough and one struck barrel.




Will keep updates coming as they arrive.

Nitro

Edited by CptCurl (28/11/10 11:30 PM)

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: nitro450exp]
      #171171 - 09/11/10 02:13 AM

Coming along - you must be quite excited.

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: DarylS]
      #171173 - 09/11/10 03:26 AM

Yes, I am getting excited again.
I am going on a pig hunt with a bunch of guys with DR's in January.
I wish this would be done for the hunt, but probably not.
O well just have to make arrangements for another hunt.

Nitro.

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: nitro450exp]
      #171215 - 10/11/10 12:01 AM

Thanks for the update

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: GroovyMike]
      #172182 - 28/11/10 03:19 AM

Well done, keep the updates coming, that should be a wonderful shooter

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: Tallchief]
      #175487 - 14/02/11 09:08 AM

02/13/2011 Update

Wow 2011 Feb. already.
Smith has promised me update pictures by the weekend.
Will post as soon as I get them.

Nitro

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: nitro450exp]
      #175853 - 20/02/11 01:26 PM

Hello all,

02/19

Smith emailed me today asking me to choose my sights.
He hopes to have barrels assembled by end of weekend.
Hope to have pictures soon.

Nitro

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12 Bore DR
20 Bore DR
450 NE SR
577 NE SR

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: nitro450exp]
      #176124 - 24/02/11 08:15 AM

Hello again,

Barrels are in the monoblock.
Ribs are made, sight are in the mail.
Needs to make front sight ramp and assemble.

Hope to have pictures soon.

Nitro

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"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall

45/70 DR / 12ga Paradox
470 NE DR
12 Bore DR
20 Bore DR
450 NE SR
577 NE SR

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: nitro450exp]
      #176126 - 24/02/11 08:19 AM

Top stuff! Yes, pictures please.

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: 4seventy]
      #176132 - 24/02/11 12:03 PM

Getting exciting!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: DarylS]
      #176215 - 26/02/11 12:23 AM

02/25/2011

GOT TO RANT !

Well after 20 min on the phone last Monday placing the sight order,
and repeating the gunsmith's address no less than 4 times.
The sights showed up on my doorstep on Thursday.

Is everyone retarded in this country ?

I rushed to USPS and sent them Priority, they will be delivered on Monday 28th.
So another weekend wasted because some Tard cannot follow instructions.

SORRY, had to get it off my chest.

First it was the tracer for the lathe then the tap for the monobloc, then the sights.
I started this in June of 2010.
I am starting to think the God's don't want me to have a bore rifle.

OK I am done.

Nitro out.

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20 Bore DR
450 NE SR
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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: nitro450exp]
      #176224 - 26/02/11 03:01 AM

I think it's coming OK - breath deeply Jut think , I'll be done for perfect testing weather.

Nothing worse than getting a new rifle when it's -40 out with a -65 wind chill.

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: DarylS]
      #176472 - 03/03/11 12:53 AM

Update 3/2/2011

Well finally I have some good progress news and pictures.

Pic 1, DOM tube that the concave ribs were cut from.



Pic 2, 1/4 rib being made.



Pic 3, Monobloc being tapped.



Pic 4, Barrels soldered in and contoured, Greener crossbolt tang area prepped for 1/4 rib.



Pic 5, Front sight base on concave rib.



Pic 6, Barrel assembly getting ready to be joined.



We are getting closer, really getting excited now.

Thanks
Nitro

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"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall

45/70 DR / 12ga Paradox
470 NE DR
12 Bore DR
20 Bore DR
450 NE SR
577 NE SR

Edited by CptCurl (07/03/11 09:57 PM)

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: nitro450exp]
      #176477 - 03/03/11 02:43 AM

Nice work!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: DarylS]
      #176506 - 03/03/11 11:11 AM

Great to see it coming along , looks like nice work , we have all been watching & waiting !

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: Sarg]
      #176716 - 07/03/11 05:08 AM

Update 03/06/2011

Sights finally showed up at smith.
I asked NECG to mail directly to smith, they botched it and sent them to me.
So it took 8 days for the smith to get them, Priority mail !

This is what I chose.







The red fibre and night are the same height.
The rear see thru will be made to work and then a std single rear express will be cut to match.
I will be able to switch from see thru to traditional.

Nitro

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"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall

45/70 DR / 12ga Paradox
470 NE DR
12 Bore DR
20 Bore DR
450 NE SR
577 NE SR

Edited by CptCurl (07/03/11 09:59 PM)

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: nitro450exp]
      #178230 - 03/04/11 01:47 AM

Update 04/02/2011

No not April fools day, April Drool's day.
Yes lots of progress on the barrels.

Pic 1, Barrel components.



Pic 2, Barrels ready for solder.



Pic 3, Post solder.



Pic 4. Swivel after cleaning.



Pic 5, Front sight and regulating wedge.



Pic 6, Complete Barrel top view.



Pic 7, rib being machined for Talley's.



Pic 8 & 9, Close up of rib and complete rib after finishing.





Enjoy
I am.

Nitro

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45/70 DR / 12ga Paradox
470 NE DR
12 Bore DR
20 Bore DR
450 NE SR
577 NE SR

Edited by CptCurl (07/05/11 10:42 PM)

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: nitro450exp]
      #178238 - 03/04/11 02:07 AM

Quote:



The red fibre and night are the same height.
The rear see thru will be made to work and then a std single rear express will be cut to match.
I will be able to switch from see thru to traditional.

Nitro



That's an interesting thing to do. So the traditional leaf will be a hinged leaf, with the see through one standing? Or swappable?

I've wondered how well the see through leafs work. Had a look at them, but never used one for actual shooting let alone hunting.

Also interesting the red fibre and night sight idea.

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Edited by NitroX (03/04/11 02:09 AM)

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: NitroX]
      #178242 - 03/04/11 02:20 AM

The ghost rear sight is not to my liking, but then, not my gun, is it. Coming along nicely, Nitro- you must be very excited.

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: DarylS]
      #178245 - 03/04/11 03:38 AM

Hello,

If you mean see thru by "Ghost rear sight" then as you say it is personal preference.
I have one on my Krieghoff and I really like it, that is why I chose one for this gun.
You eye really adapats and it is very quick, you put the pumkin on the fence post at 6 oclock and whammo.

The sights will be two distinct sets one see thru and one std with night sight.
I will have to exchange front and rear to change.

Nitro

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"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall

45/70 DR / 12ga Paradox
470 NE DR
12 Bore DR
20 Bore DR
450 NE SR
577 NE SR

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: nitro450exp]
      #181443 - 13/05/11 10:05 AM

Update 5/12/2011

Well got some update pictures.

Pic.1
Extractor being reamed.



Pic. 2
Extractor being cut.



Pic. 3
New hinge pin being cut, donor gun was off face.



Pic. 4
New hinge pin installed.



Next:
Put the barrels back on face make a new extractor, then wood work.

Summary of work to date:

Barrel blanks contoured.
Old barrels deconstructed.
Monoblock drilled and tapped.
New barrels set into monoblock.
Custom upper, lower and 1/4 ribs made.
Custom front swivel and sight base made.
1/4 Rib shaped and cut for Talley rings.
Barrels joined and wedge set in.
Barrels struck.
New extractor made and cut in.
Action rejoined.

Enjoy Nitro

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"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall

45/70 DR / 12ga Paradox
470 NE DR
12 Bore DR
20 Bore DR
450 NE SR
577 NE SR

Edited by CptCurl (13/05/11 09:28 PM)

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