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jcs271
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Boddington No.1 450NE Bought it and shot it!
      #160365 - 13/05/10 05:23 AM

I had read a lot of comments here and on other boards regarding this upcoming rifle. Well I got mine last week and finally got some Hornady factory ammo yesterday. While still at the shop I purchased a limbsaver pad (prefit for No.1) and we installed it right on the spot, pad fit perfectly but the bottom screw hole needed to be realigned about 1/8th inch. Rifles fit and finish was excellent. The wood is very nice and received several comments at the shop. The rifle balances perfectly, just slightly forward of the action. Trigger pull is clean and breaks nicely. I had heard a number of theories that due to its light weight this rig would kick like a mule. I admit to using a folded dish towel for shot number one which I just cranked off quickly to get a feel for the recoil. You can't imagine my relief that recoil was not only not bad, but with subsequent shots using only the limbsaver pad it was actually not even uncomfortable. The first two aimed shots that I took offhand were at about 20 yards and they both landed about 1/4 inch apart. This rifle really fits me well and truly points where I am looking. The larger/thicker pad helps with my LOP due to my "ape arms". I ultimately fired 12 rounds with the open sights at 20-25 yards and had a very respectable group and best of all, NO BRUISING! This rifle is definately a keeper.

BUT! its not perfect. The safety blocked EVERY SINGLE round from being ejected. The case length is such that when the rear of the case strikes the safety the front edge of the case has not even cleared the barrel yet. Ejected cases simply hit the safety lever and bounce halfway back into the chamber. I tried rotating the rifle onto both sides and gravity could not even help enough to get the case to fall free.

It is absolutely amazing to me that Ruger could market these as dangerous game rifles in magnum calibers, then let these rifles leave the factory knowing that you have to claw each empty case out of the action. This is a well documented problem that they apparently refuse to address. I will do like everyone else and just grind the leading edge of the safety but it will forever be a point of irritation for me. I have probably 25 ruger firearms and love them all but this is OUTRAGEOUS!

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crkennedy1
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Re: Boddington No.1 450NE Bought it and shot it! [Re: jcs271]
      #160366 - 13/05/10 05:38 AM

Good information. I was seriously looking at this very rifle, but I think I'll hold-off for the time being. (Feel free to share this with Ruger)

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Re: Boddington No.1 450NE Bought it and shot it! [Re: crkennedy1]
      #160374 - 13/05/10 07:53 AM

I used a .30-06 Ruger No.1 last year in SA and the same thing happened all the time...?? It can't be a quiz surely ?, best, Mike

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Re: Boddington No.1 450NE Bought it and shot it! [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #160375 - 13/05/10 08:08 AM

Someone needs to market a replacement 'drop in' (if possible) replacement safety.

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Re: Boddington No.1 450NE Bought it and shot it! [Re: jcs271]
      #160376 - 13/05/10 09:30 AM

This image from a Jeff Quinn article on the Craig Boddington Ruger No. 1 African Adventure Series rifle.









Cheers
Tinker

Edited by CptCurl (27/07/10 09:12 PM)


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Re: Boddington No.1 450NE Bought it and shot it! [Re: jcs271]
      #160377 - 13/05/10 10:24 AM

Every No. 1 comes that way. It's to keep the empty from going into your face. Grind and re-blue it.

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Re: Boddington No.1 450NE Bought it and shot it! [Re: bonanza]
      #160385 - 13/05/10 06:56 PM

Quote:

Every No. 1 comes that way. It's to keep the empty from going into your face. Grind and re-blue it.




Probably for the us markes so ruger wont need to buy new eyes for their customers. Soon they will come with an apparature on the other end as well.

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Re: Boddington No.1 450NE Bought it and shot it! [Re: bonanza]
      #160388 - 13/05/10 07:52 PM

Quote:

Every No. 1 comes that way. It's to keep the empty from going into your face. Grind and re-blue it.




My early 1980's No.1S in .218Bee has a safety flush with the tang. No problems with ejection at all. Is this a feature of earlier models ?


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okguy
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Re: Boddington No.1 450NE Bought it and shot it! [Re: tophet1]
      #160397 - 13/05/10 10:36 PM

"My early 1980's No.1S in .218Bee has a safety flush with the tang. No problems with ejection at all. Is this a feature of earlier models ??

My .375 H&H model 1H Tropical that I bought in the early '80s had a safety slide that was made like that .450. I just removed some material from the front edge of the tang and reblued it. Some would remove material from the top surface, thus tapering it so as not to shorten the front tang. That is a better way. My mod ended up showing a gap when the safety is on. It is possible that something could get into that gap while out hunting. It never has for me, but it could.

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Re: Boddington No.1 450NE Bought it and shot it! [Re: okguy]
      #160447 - 14/05/10 07:17 PM

Unfortunately this appears to be a standard flaw for the No1's. Bonanza could well be correct. I do agree that the factory should have them changed so this does not happen. When I get my next one- sold the last one and regret it- I will have the top of the safety tang ground back.

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Re: Boddington No.1 450NE Bought it and shot it! [Re: Rule303]
      #160452 - 14/05/10 09:00 PM

I sold my .375 & .300 No. 1, but recently picked up a very nice 1978 .458 H1 that I will not sell.

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Re: Boddington No.1 450NE Bought it and shot it! [Re: bonanza]
      #160470 - 15/05/10 03:35 AM

Hold the rifle sideways and the round will fall right out.

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Re: Boddington No.1 450NE Bought it and shot it! [Re: bonanza]
      #160472 - 15/05/10 04:29 AM

Quote:

Hold the rifle sideways and the round will fall right out.




As I said in paragraph two, tilting will NOT work, case is to long!

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Riflemanusmc
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Re: Boddington No.1 450NE Bought it and shot it! [Re: jcs271]
      #160543 - 16/05/10 01:04 PM

What town are you out of, If I may ask my MT Brother..

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Re: Boddington No.1 450NE Bought it and shot it! [Re: Riflemanusmc]
      #164819 - 24/07/10 01:15 AM

I like the way Winchester solved this issue on their 1885 High Wall. They have an adjustable shell deflector. It will direct the cases right or left or catch and hold them. However they are not chambered for any cartridge as long as the 450 N.E.

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Re: Boddington No.1 450NE Bought it and shot it! [Re: BELTFED]
      #164859 - 24/07/10 10:04 AM


For those Australian members of the forum, Alex Beer in Tasmania has been doing a mod so that it does not happen. Alex shoots his No.1 in the Big Game shoots and has got his speed right down with this mod.

Cheers,

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