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EricD
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Zim Elephant article in the "Mail"
      #156331 - 13/03/10 06:15 AM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnew...e-Zimbabwe.html

This article claims that the elephant died (of unknown causes) in the Gonarezhou National Park in Zim, and was apparently 70 years old.

Something seems to be a bit fishy IMO, and I wonder if this was in fact a PAC elephant that was intentionally shot. Which probably wouldn't suit the greeny media agenda.

I'm also suspicious about it being 70 years old. Judging by the pictures, I'd think it was quite a bit younger.

What do you guys think?



This picture is a bit deceptive, as the elephant appears to be larger than it really is. At least judging by the guy on the far left side, who makes the ones approaching from the rear look like youngish kids.





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Re: Zim Elephant article in the "Mail" [Re: EricD]
      #156373 - 13/03/10 05:28 PM

We apologise for these images but they speak more eloquently than any politician of the plight of Zimbabwe's starving people

By Mail Foreign Service
Last updated at 8:44 AM on 12th March 2010

For us it is a saddening sight - a magnificent bull elephant struck down in his old age.

But for the starving of Zimbabwe, it was little short of a miracle.

The carcass provided a vital source of food, and hundreds of desperate villagers in the Gonarezhou National Park descended on the dead animal within minutes of its discovery.

Using machetes, axes and knives made from tin cans they set upon the six-ton carcass, which was found deep in scrubland.


Fights broke out as villagers battled to strip chunks of flesh from the animal and drag them away to feed their families.

It took just one hour and 47 minutes for the 13ft-tall elephant to be reduced to a skeleton. Every part was used for food, even the trunk and ears.

The bones of the 70-year-old animal were taken to boil for soup and within 24 hours nothing was left but a blood-stained patch of earth.

The images are undeniably shocking. But they illustrate the terrible lengths to which Zimbabweans are forced to go just to survive under Robert Mugabe.

Yesterday, the Red Cross warned the situation in the former British colony is 'critical' with 2.17million - one in four of the population - requiring urgent food aid.

Emma Kundishora, of the Zimbabwe Red Cross Society, said: 'In some parts of the country, the food situation is as bad as many of our volunteers and staff have ever seen.'

Conditions are expected to deteriorate further this year following the collapse of agriculture caused by President Mugabe's violent seizures of thousands of white-owned farms since 2000.

Erratic rain has also damaged crops of corn. Harvests could produce just 500,000-tons this year, less than a third of the amount required to feed the nation.

Photographer David Chancellor said: 'Just after dawn a villager spotted the carcass as he passed on a bicycle.

'It was in the middle of nowhere, but within 15 minutes hundreds of people had arrived from all directions.

'The women formed a ring around the elephant and the men stood inside, fighting and stabbing each other to get to the meat.'

He added: 'The meat was taken back to homes. Some was eaten immediately but most was dried on washing lines and stored to eat later.

'There were celebrations in the surrounding villages for the next two nights.'











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Re: Zim Elephant article in the "Mail" [Re: NitroX]
      #156374 - 13/03/10 05:35 PM

I made these comments on the newspaper site:

Quote:

Africans love NYAMA, ie meat because they don't often get it. Elephant is a wonderful source of meat. Great pictures above, pity about the beat up story, the fighting etc. Sure they have a bit of rough and tumble but they all enjoy it. I have hundreds of photos of elephants being cut up, an hour of video of it. Good for the urban plastic monkey to see it. Meat doesn't come from shrink wrapped trays, you know. Meat is a wonderful foodstuff and source protein.




The story is a beat up.

I doubt it is in a National Park, if it is, it probably was shot by someone. The photographer culled his photos to make sure the beat up story fits. JMO.

Pommy journalists and elephant hunting. It was a BBC film crew whom fucked up legitimate culling by claiming to do a positive story then doing an ANTI film. The reason foreigners are generally not allowed near elephant culls now.

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Re: Zim Elephant article in the "Mail" [Re: NitroX]
      #156430 - 14/03/10 08:39 AM

There must be something wrong with me - perhaps I need therapy!
I find the images neither saddening or shocking...
The story also doesn't mention the miraculous disappearance of the tusks either, no doubt boiled up for soup like the bones....
and is that a bullet wound in front of the right ear?


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Re: Zim Elephant article in the "Mail" [Re: JabaliHunter]
      #156434 - 14/03/10 10:20 AM

See the guys in Safari Overalls skinning out the feet.

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Re: Zim Elephant article in the "Mail" [Re: ozhunter]
      #156452 - 14/03/10 02:29 PM

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See the guys in Safari Overalls skinning out the feet.




Yep, at least four guys wearing either blue or green overalls with the overalls being in good condition. Also a man whom could be white wearing better trousers and shirt in one of the skinning photos.

BTW the photographer happened to be "bicycling" along, in the bush and saw the dead elephant in the "middle of nowhere". Really!

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Re: Zim Elephant article in the "Mail" [Re: NitroX]
      #156464 - 14/03/10 07:48 PM

Also notice that while the body is being skinned (3rd picture from the top on this thread), the villagers are waiting over on that hill in the backround. I'm more and more certain that this is an animal that was intentionally hunted and shot.

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Re: Zim Elephant article in the "Mail" [Re: EricD]
      #156468 - 14/03/10 10:05 PM

If it did die of starvation and old age wouldnt it have died in better surroundings and shade ??? Except for that I don't see any hipbones sticking out from a poor starving elephant.

And since when do people live in national parks and tourist go round them on bicycles LOL ???

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Re: Zim Elephant article in the "Mail" [Re: SafariHunt]
      #156469 - 14/03/10 10:38 PM

I have heard that the locals do run their cattle well into Gonarezhu Park but I hardly think this was the case here.

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Re: Zim Elephant article in the "Mail" [Re: ozhunter]
      #156473 - 15/03/10 12:32 AM

What do you reckon, the journalist himself shot the elephant on a safari?

Unfortunately they aren't putting any new comments in the comments section.

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Re: Zim Elephant article in the "Mail" [Re: NitroX]
      #156501 - 15/03/10 05:13 AM

The story looks fabricated to me.

Note the eley with skin still on is laying on a different side than the eley being skinned. Same eley?

Note the common folk being held at bay on the hill as the feet are skinned out by "guys in coveralls".

Note the gent in green coveralls standing on the left in one of the photos, sure looks like a game tracker to me.

All smells of a hunted elephant being processed by the outfitter's crew.


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Re: Zim Elephant article in the "Mail" [Re: Altamaha]
      #156505 - 15/03/10 05:51 AM

Offcourse its bogus, the writer knows that if he writes it was shot it takes the focus away from his intention, and that is to show the reader that they are starving in zim.

btw, i wonder if they would leave it to rot if they were not starwing.

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Re: Zim Elephant article in the "Mail" [Re: 450_366]
      #156515 - 15/03/10 10:08 AM

I do think this is the same elephant in all of the pictures.
In the shot of the skinners taking the hide, you cam just see on the bottom side of the belly that the skin is already cut. This must have been taken after the upside was skinned and I suspect that they rolled it over with a truck or something to finish the job (is it possible to roll over a good sized elephant?)
Isn't it customary to allow the folks from the surrounding area to butcher the animal after the hunt if there are villages in the area?

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Re: Zim Elephant article in the "Mail" [Re: Huvius]
      #156519 - 15/03/10 11:05 AM

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... I suspect that they rolled it over with a truck or something to finish the job (is it possible to roll over a good sized elephant?)...




Roll it over with a Landcruiser. Enough people could do it too.

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Re: Zim Elephant article in the "Mail" [Re: 450_366]
      #156557 - 15/03/10 06:41 PM

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btw, i wonder if they would leave it to rot if they were not starwing.




For sure.


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Re: Zim Elephant article in the "Mail" [Re: ozhunter]
      #156574 - 15/03/10 11:45 PM

That story gives me hope. I took a lot of video and photographs of my elephants being cut up. One purpose was I wanted to write an article for a main line newspaper or magazine on conservation in Africa, feeding the poor etc.

Then I decided the death threats might not be the best way to go in the future.

However maybe ...

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