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Torpex
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Ruger #1 450/400 NE 3" Rear Sight Adjustment
      #154733 - 25/02/10 03:36 AM

I received my Ruger #1 in 450/400 NE 3" recently. After reading the instruction manual, I noted the recommended procedure for windage adjustment on the rear sight was, of course, to drift it right or left as required. However what Ruger neglected to include in their instruction manual was that on this particular model, there is a rear sight blade lock screw on the barrel rib immediately forward of the rear sight that locks it in place and must be removed prior to drifting the rear sight and tightened prior to shooting the rifle. Failure to loosen or remove this rear sight locking screw could result in cosmetic damage to the rifle when attempting to drift adjust the rear sight.
I called Ruger customer service and explained that my instruction manual not only did not have the 450/400 NE 3" caliber listed on the front page with all the other calibers ever chambered in the # 1 rifle (my first clue) but also it did not contain the correct rear sight adjustment procedure. The customer service response was to send me a copy of the manual that I already had. I then called the Ruger technical services department and explained the problem. Their response was that they (Ruger) probably missed that one tidbit of important information and maybe it would be covered in the next printing of the Ruger #1 instruction manual or basically tough luck next case.
So this posting is a note of caution to all owners of the standard Ruger #1 in 450/400 NE 3" concerning proper rear sight adjustment.
On a the same note, the Ruger Hawkeye African & Alaskan Model M77 handcranks have a rear express sight that also has this same setup with a rear sight blade locking screw. The correct drift adjustment procedure requiring loosening of the rear sight blade lock screw is in their respective instruction manuals. It is as follows "Lateral windage adjustment is made by loosening the rear sight blade lock screw (located in front of the rear sight blade) and carefully move the the blade in the direction you wish to move the bullet point of impact. Tighten the screw before shooting the rifle. Repeat as necessary until the rifle is zeroed."
The Lipsey Ruger #1 in 450/400 NE 3" also has this rear sight setup and it too has an express rear sight. I don't have access to a Lipsey model Ruger #1 450/400 NE 3" instruction manual but I will wager that it also contains the correct rear sight sight drift adjustment procedure.
This got me thinking, if these rifles all had the same rear sight setup as my rifle and the only difference is that they had express rear sights and mine has the cheesy Williams folding rear sight, the express rear sight from a M77 Hawkeye African just might fit my Ruger #1. I ordered a Ruger Hawkeye M77 African express rear sight, Ruger P/N D07725HM, in hopes that it will fit. It only cost $16.25 including shipping so it is a cheap gamble. The only thing left would be to get the correct NECG Ruger #1 front sight blade in the correct height for proper sight adjustment. I'll let the forum know how this turns out.


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Tatume
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Re: Ruger #1 450/400 NE 3" Rear Sight Adjustment [Re: Torpex]
      #154817 - 25/02/10 11:48 PM

The locking screw is standard on Ruger #1 sights. Your's is not unusual.

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Torpex
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Re: Ruger #1 450/400 NE 3" Rear Sight Adjustment [Re: Tatume]
      #154836 - 26/02/10 04:41 AM

Thank you sir for the info that the locking screw is standard on Ruger #1 sights.
What is unusual is that the rear sight locking screw is not listed on the parts list in the Ruger #1 instruction manual I was provided nor is in on the copy provided on the Ruger website. I hope I never loose mine!
I did receive the express rear sight blade from the M77 Ruger Hawkeye African model and it fits my 450/400 NE 3" Ruger #1 just fine.
Thanks again!


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degoins
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Re: Ruger #1 450/400 NE 3" Rear Sight Adjustment [Re: Torpex]
      #154948 - 27/02/10 10:39 AM

Torpex,
I'm VERY interested in how the express sight works on yours because I've been thinking about doing that very same thing for mine. I was hoping Ruger would offer these as a replacement for the #1.

Good luck,
David


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BillPoole
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Re: Ruger #1 450/400 NE 3" Rear Sight Adjustment [Re: degoins]
      #154963 - 27/02/10 01:15 PM

Can you send a pic of the Hawkeye express rear sight blade mounted on the #1?

also, when you shoot it, let us know how far off it is in elevation, do you really need a new front sight or can that hawkeye rear blade be used or filed to work?

I would like to have the express style rear sight too, so I will order some for my #1 rifles (one of which is .450/400 and one of which will be .300 H&H but I don't own that one yet) if it works out well based on your experience.

where do we order the Ruger Hawkeye M77 African express rear sight, Ruger P/N D07725HM from? directly from Ruger?

Thanks

Poole

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Torpex
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Re: Ruger #1 450/400 NE 3" Rear Sight Adjustment [Re: BillPoole]
      #155088 - 28/02/10 12:22 PM

Bill,
I ordered the express sight from Ruger.
Go to the Ruger website, select customer service and parts ordering. You can get the parts ordering number for rifles there.
The Ruger express rear sight actually fits into the rear sight dovetail using only finger pressure. I will be using two different types of Locktite compounds, one for the threads on the rear sight locking screw and another to set the express sight in the dovetail.
I'll post all the sighting in info once I can get to the range. I will be doing all my shooting over Long Grass shooting sticks to mitigate some of the effects of recoil. I had shoulder surgery 18 months ago so I have to give it a fighting chance.
I am hoping I can regulate the elevation by ordering the required front sight blade from NECG.
Send me an email to the address in my profile and I'll send some pictures I just took of the express sight installed on the rifle.
Hope this helps
Tom M


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