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Hi gryphon. These bullets turn the 45-70 into a big game rifle.

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Hi gryphon. These bullets turn the 45-70 into a big game rifle.

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LOL, that should cause a laugh on here LOL.

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Pardon my ignorence but what is the joke .

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Pardon my ignorence but what is the joke .

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No ignorance at all.


The Joke was the comment made "These bullets turn the 45-70 into a big game rifle."


In the past, any mention of the 45/70 as a Big Game cartridge
cause no end of arguments.

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Usually by individuals who don't handloaded and those who've never used handloaded .45/70 ammo on big game but have strong opinions which are hard facts in their eyes - is all.

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Pardon my ignorence but what is the joke .

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No ignorance at all.


The Joke was the comment made "These bullets turn the 45-70 into a big game rifle."


In the past, any mention of the 45/70 as a Big Game cartridge
cause no end of arguments.

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Usually by individuals who don't handloaded and those who've never used handloaded .45/70 ammo on big game but have strong opinions which are hard facts in their eyes - is all.

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Fair call - you can add "stirrers" to the pot as well LOL.


At the end of the day, it's a 400gn bullet travelling at XXXX fps - I have yet to find an animal that can tell the
what cartridge it comes out of.

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Most people beleive the 45-70 has plenty of bullet weight and hitting power but penertration can be little lacking .
All I meant was that if these bullets cause damage like an expanding bullet but improve the penertration it can only be a good thing .
I have not hand loaded for a 45-70 but have for a 444 marlin and a bullet like the HSP from Woodleigh would help this round to no end.
Cheers Neale.

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Sorry if you took it wrong, but as said above, everytime someone says the 45/70 can take big animals all hell brakes loose.

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No normally the stirrer trolls insert words such as "easily", "perfect", and especially "ideal". For example, "Is the .45/70 the ideal buffalo rifle".

Or stupid illogical concepts such as "penetration is increased if the velocity is decreased".

Of course a .45/70 can kill big game, I have said so many times, with a guy hunting cape buffalo with one, and testing it on a downed elephant when on a hunt one time in Africa.

But as for it being able to kill stuff such as water buffalo, well a mate shot his water buffalo mostly with a 6.5mm or a .270. Lots of cape buffalo have been shot with medium calibres as have elephant.

And this is where the word "ideal" does have its place, shot under "ideal" circumstances.

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But back to topic, surely such a bullet is FAR superior in a lever action to these hard cast bullets? Safe in the magazine, can be driven at faster velocities rather than slower ones ie for the cast bullet not to break up, penetrate well, and allegedly cause a wider than calibre wound channel. I am yet to be convinced on the last one though.

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I have some for the .375 but the tiny little packs hardly allow a load to be developed.

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Perhaps the tiny little wallet opening should be prised further apart to fund some more of the tiny little packs.

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