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FATBOY404
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Re: Building a .303 double ( photos) [Re: Sville]
      #166453 - 19/08/10 07:15 AM

Excellent work.

Makes the rest of us seam useless !!.

Cheers Neale.

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500Rigby
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Re: Building a .303 double ( photos) [Re: FATBOY404]
      #166662 - 23/08/10 10:36 AM

Hi again Rolland

I plan on using a Yildiz SxS 410 for my project. It is a very nicely made Turkish gun that is a single trigger and can be had in several grades. It is unusual in that the trigger is mechanical, not recoil operated which would be mandatory in a gun that has minimal recoil like a Hornet. I had a brief look at one but didnt take too much notice of the locking arrangement but the Hornet being quite a narrow case shouldnt put a lot of backthrust on the face even though it operates at 3 times the chamber pressure. Havent done the calculations yet. Anyway, the Yildiz I inspected appeared to me to be quite well made and being of modern steels should do the job. Best of all they are reasonably priced - about $1200 Australian for a new base model. Have a look at www.yildizshotgun.com and the Elegant A4, A4 Special and A4 Special L (which is a highly engraved sideplate actioned gun). This firm makes a lot of guns under their own name as you will see and I bet they also make a lot of guns for other "manufacturers" as well. I expect the low prices will be a result of cheap labor and highly automated machinery. They seem highly respected in British gun magazines. Love seeing your project coming together, when I get mobile I'll do the same for those here who may like to look?

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Ben
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Re: Building a .303 double ( photos) [Re: 500Rigby]
      #166678 - 23/08/10 06:06 PM

Wow!

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Rolland
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Re: Building a .303 double [Re: Rolland]
      #167235 - 05/09/10 07:38 AM

Made quite a bit of progress up till I hit the next brick wall. I have the forearm catch, spacer and sling swivel mount and the quarter rib made. Now I need them tigged onto the barrels. Well guess what, nobody in this small town can/will microtig and those that build homebuilt aircraft won't touch it. I thought they might as they make some pretty small important welds on the planes. That is what you get for assuming. . It is kinda funny as I am pretty much treated as the antichrist when they find out its a gun that needs work. And no gunsmiths here that do that work, they are parts changers.
So I am going to get a machine as soon as I can afford it and do it myself. I have been welding for years on trucks, caterpillers well equipment and other stuff with both mig and stick no reason I can't learn to tig before I die.
just need a little money.



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Re: Building a .303 double [Re: Rolland]
      #167415 - 08/09/10 05:04 PM

Hi Rolland it is very nice to see a beautiful product coming together so well.
Good job and best of luck.
Please do keep posting pics.
/S/

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AZDAVE
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Re: Building a .303 double [Re: Sniper]
      #168921 - 04/10/10 11:49 AM

Rolland,
I am down in Sierra Vista.

There is a guy that TIG'd a couple mauser bolt handle's friends of mine. He might be willing to take on your welding requirement. He is one of those welder's that work with some of the scary thin cromoly and AL bike frame tubes.

I can ask him if you would like me to?

Great work, would love to see it when you get it finished.

Dave

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Rolland
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Re: Building a .303 double [Re: AZDAVE]
      #169069 - 06/10/10 04:09 PM

Dave
That would be great if you want give me a PM

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Rolland
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Re: Building a .303 double [Re: Rolland]
      #190623 - 24/09/11 12:58 PM

Well its been a while but I am getting close, I had to get a tig welding machine and learn to use it so I could get the barrels connected. besides I wanted a tig anyway. I have finished the firing pin mods and should be able to proof it this coming week. If I can bring it home in the same number of pieces and in the correct configuration I left with I will try putting some more photos up.

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Re: Building a .303 double [Re: Rolland]
      #190643 - 24/09/11 10:08 PM

Rolland,
Very nice project and coming along nicely. I am very impressed that you took on the job of making your own mono block, it looks like you did a very nice job of shaping and working it down. What tools did you use while shaping it? I see that you have an air grinder in the backgound, did you use that for most of the shaping? Don't give up, you are well past the place that many would have quit. Sometimes the most difficult part is keeping up your enthusiasm for the job. Bob

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DennisDaigger
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Re: Building a .303 double [Re: Rolland]
      #196495 - 12/12/11 01:55 PM

Rolland,
I got my gun Friday and that was the last piece I needed to start my .303 project. I would be interested to hear how you plan to establish a proof load.

Like others, I appreciate you sharing the superb details of your project.
Dennis

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davejensen
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Re: Building a .303 double [Re: Rolland]
      #203203 - 22/02/12 05:38 AM

Quote:

Well its been a while but I am getting close, I had to get a tig welding machine and learn to use it so I could get the barrels connected. besides I wanted a tig anyway. I have finished the firing pin mods and should be able to proof it this coming week. If I can bring it home in the same number of pieces and in the correct configuration I left with I will try putting some more photos up.



OK so I'm the new guy here and I (concededly) don't know how to do this. Which is why i ask: Is it necessary to TIG-weld threaded barrel inserts into the monoblock?? Certainly I have put together plenty of other guns where it was sufficient to simply torque a threaded barrel in.

Relatedly: how deep are you welding? Are these just very light surface welds to take away the "line" or are you actually doing penetrating welds? Doesn't that pose the risk of messing up the temper in the block and/or barrel blanks? If they are just light surface welds to preserve the appearance is TIG even necessary? (e.g. what would be wrong with a MIG set to a very low power setting and using small diameter wire to fill in a shall channel cut along the top of the seam?

It occurred to me that you might be able to very roughly regulate the barrels by seating either or both slightly deeper into the monoblock . . . (?) Obviously once the ribs, etc. are on there that is going to change the harmonics, though.

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Re: Building a .303 double [Re: davejensen]
      #203315 - 22/02/12 11:28 PM

Dave,
You generally don't Tig weld the barrels and monblock together, they are soldered and/or threaded. The welding he is talking about is to have his forend hanger bracket lightly welded to the barrels. Some builder also weld in the mid spacer or the front sling spacer as some call it. I don't like to do that because it limits the amount of adjustment after you weld it in. If you have problems after doing that, the spacer will have to be sliced back off. I just solder mine spacers in. The only other welding that needs to be done is sometimes it is necessary to weld filler shims to the forend bracket before welding it to the barrels. Bob

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davejensen
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Re: Building a .303 double [Re: Birdhunter50]
      #203345 - 23/02/12 06:19 AM

Bob, thanks. I can't wait to get the Brown book in . . .

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