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Ron_Vella
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First blood for my home-built Cape gun
      #147052 - 02/12/09 08:43 AM

I built this Cape gun a few years ago on a Pedersoli 10 bore percussion gun. I shortened the barrels to 26", sleeved a .54 calibre rifle barrel into the left barrel, and mounted rifle sights on it. This morning, I was sitting up in my tree stand when this coyote came trotting by. I took him at 55 yards with the rifle barrel. Robert Ruark said "Use Enough Gun". Believe me, a 335 grain, .54 calibre, hollow point, maxi-ball is MORE than enough gun for a coyote. 55 yards was twice the useable distance for the 1 1/2 ounces of plated "00" buckshot that I load in the right barrel.




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Metalguy
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Re: First blood for my home-built Cape gun [Re: Ron_Vella]
      #147053 - 02/12/09 08:55 AM

Congrats!!! Very Cool

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500Nitro
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Re: First blood for my home-built Cape gun [Re: Metalguy]
      #147054 - 02/12/09 09:09 AM


Awesome.

Top stuff.


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Der_Jaeger
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Re: First blood for my home-built Cape gun [Re: 500Nitro]
      #147062 - 02/12/09 10:33 AM


Very well done! Congratulations on bagging such a nicely pelted Coyote. It has very nice markings and should be considered for tanning.

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9.3x57
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Re: First blood for my home-built Cape gun [Re: Der_Jaeger]
      #147069 - 02/12/09 01:53 PM

Der Jäger knows what he's talking about! Beautiful yote. Here it is unheard of. Brush rubbed and worthless here. Stalky-haired and fit for the ditch only {I merely cut the tails off and nail them to the game pole}.

Yours reminds us of the ones I shot in Kentucky and Washington State. Your coyote in tough, forested northern areas is a true trophy. Just to see one is tough enough!

Worthy of the collar on my wife's Chief Joseph Pendleton coat.

Very nice job, Ron.

I read your posts in awe. Always interested.

Please give us some technical details of the gun.

What range regulated?

How is the gun regulated? Slug in shotgun bbl & bullet in rifle, or center pattern of buckshot & rifle bullet...?

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DarylS
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Re: First blood for my home-built Cape gun [Re: 9.3x57]
      #147070 - 02/12/09 02:00 PM

Well done, Ron - very nice markings, too. I'd have been happier if you'd have done it with a round ball.

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beleg2
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Re: First blood for my home-built Cape gun [Re: DarylS]
      #147159 - 04/12/09 08:07 AM


Good hunting and very nice cape gun.
May I copy your idea?
I have a 14 bore barrels complete soldered with ribs et all.
Only missing the rest. LOL
Im thinking about making a buschflint as the rifled barrel will be the right one.

Thanks for sharing.
Martin


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DUGABOY1
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Re: First blood for my home-built Cape gun [Re: Ron_Vella]
      #149038 - 29/12/09 08:20 AM

Very nicely done Ron! I have a Pedersoli 58 cal cap lock double rifle that I would like to shorten the barrels the same way, and re-regulate them for my loads and replace the sights with something better. Your cape gun looks to be far better ballanced with the 26" barrels.

Unlike the cape gun regulation is more involved with a double rifle. Both barrels have to be regulated so that both barrels shoot side by side on a double rifle, while the cape gun the rifle barrel should be regulated to shoot to the middle of a pattern from the shot barrel then the iron sights cut to point of aim for the rifle barrel only. That is easier, because the shot barrele only need to shoot a pattern of about 3o" at 35 yds.

I collect double rifles and cape guns, mostly cartridge rifles, and only a couple of the muzzleloaders. Cape guns are real hunting rifles for all of north America. I have a H. Berella side lock, exposed hammer cape gun that is chambered for 8X57JR on the right barrel, and 16 ga shotgun on the left barrel. The rifle prints a 196 gr soft point bullet right on top of the front sight at 100 yds, and the shot barrel patterns No 7 1/2 shot in a dence 30" pattern at 35 yds. Tha same shot barrel will print a Brenneke 16 ga slug right beside the rifle bullet at 100 yds.

This cape gun didn't start out that way though! When I got the gun it was chambered for the short 16 ga , and was choked for double tight full choke. You had to let blue quail get out to about 50 yds before the pattern was big enough to hit them consistantly. I opened the choke up to modified, and lengthened the chamber to use 2 3/4" 16 ga shot shells. The cape gun is now a real muledeer, elk, moose, and black bear gun with the rifle side, and the shot barrel is fine for pass shooting on doves, quail, pheasent, and shoots the Brenneke slugs like a rifle.

I have a V. Haffner side lock exposed hammer cape gun that is a 20 ga on the left barrel, and a "58 Berdan carbine" rifle on the right barrel. I mqake cases from 577NE cases, and shoot lubed hollow based lead cast bullets in this one, as it is a black powder gun, with Damaskus barrels. the shot side is a great dove gun, and the rifle is quite accurate out to about 100 yds, and has accounted for several Muledeer, and one black bear in New Mexico. These things are fun, and like you, I have used both of them for calling coyotes and bob cats as well.

Congratulations on you fine coyote and your job on the cape gun! Very nicely done sir!

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Re: First blood for my home-built Cape gun [Re: DUGABOY1]
      #149052 - 29/12/09 12:51 PM

Clever and a nice dog too.

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Re: First blood for my home-built Cape gun [Re: Ron_Vella]
      #149069 - 30/12/09 02:32 AM

Congratulations and may you have many more fantastic hunts!

Nothing can beat hunting with a gun that you built yourself.

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DarylS
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Re: First blood for my home-built Cape gun [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #149072 - 30/12/09 03:46 AM

Just picked up a Kodiak .58 from a friend and am planning on re-modeling the stock- especiallythe cheek piece along with a re-finish. Ron - yours looks good as to stain and finish.
Primary change will be to reduce the height of the nipple seat (if possible), along with using lower 'pistol' nipples, to allow the curve of the cock'snose to stop lower over the top of the fence.

At 10 1/2 pound, the full length gun is needlessly heavy for a little .58.

The owner returned the gun to Pedersoli, complaining of the terrible regulation. The new 'set' of barrels regulate perfectly parallel at 50 and 100 yards, which is amazing- but only with a light load of 3 drams and a round ball. It will be interesting to find out what happens with increased powder charges. I want, nay, demand, 1,800fps. We'll see what happens.

Shortening the tubes to a more 'normal' 26" was a good idea & I may end up doing just that as well, partially to reduce weight and to improve handling by moving the centre of ballance back to the hands.

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Re: First blood for my home-built Cape gun [Re: DarylS]
      #149077 - 30/12/09 05:07 AM

Alas - just checked the bores and they're 28" form the nipples, 27" from the front of the plugs, so unless going to 24", there'd not be much sence in shortening them for weight or balance change.
I did re-crown as they had the typical sharp edges, although they did have a mild chamfer. My normal patch material cut with the factory muzzles, but now shows no damage what-so-ever. The balls are nicely engraved by the lands and the bottom of the grooves - this with a .022" ticking patch and .562" ball. My normal ball diameter for a .58 being .575" with the same patch, I might get away with the smaller ball. Only shooting will tell. The rifling depth isn't great - appears to be about .008" - perhaps a .570" will be corect. Again, shooting will tell. I was happy to find the bores non-pitted (didn't use a magnifyer, though), although I know the gun has been fired with pyrodex. There was mild rust in the bores, typical of 'casual' muzzleloading shooters, I find.

Ron - how do round balls shoot in your cape gun? We've found the .54's to do quite well on moose and elk as long as one stays away from heavy bone - to a longest shot of 170yards. The moose ran flat-out for 40 yards, dropping dead in is tracks - double lunged and heart centred as well. Velocity 1,750fps at the muzzle for that load. The ball was under the hide on the far side after holing a rib on the entrance side - or was it exit side?

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