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93mouse
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I.HOLLIS & SONS cal .475 No 2
#135588 - 18/05/09 07:46 PM

link: http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=2256429&PHPSESSID=77a46af1bcbfded26ab5bc7a84dab868

Gentlemen what say you?

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Kalunga
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Re: I.HOLLIS & SONS cal .475 No 2 [Re: 93mouse]
#135589 - 18/05/09 08:33 PM

It looks nice, but I would never buy a double or any other gun in that price category at egun without thorough inspection and a visit to the shooting range. Besides, I think the price is a little bit too high.

Kalunga

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500Nitro
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Re: I.HOLLIS & SONS cal .475 No 2 [Re: 93mouse]
#135590 - 18/05/09 08:58 PM

I'd prefer it if you also took the time to do a Translation
as opposed to just putting up the photos.

It only takes 3 - 4 minutes and gives alot more info than
just pretty pictures - which look good but can easily cover things up IMHO.

Anyway, gun looks nice.

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93mouse
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Re: I.HOLLIS & SONS cal .475 No 2 [Re: 500Nitro]
#135592 - 18/05/09 09:13 PM

Sory - will give it a try:

roughly it says that it was built in 20's for Oakes & Son Limited - restored in England - barrels are very good - stock length 14.6", overall length 40.55", weight 10.3 lbs.

They are asking ~ 19K USD or 25.7K AUD.

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500Nitro
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Re: I.HOLLIS & SONS cal .475 No 2 [Re: 93mouse]
#135593 - 18/05/09 09:15 PM

Use an on line translator and do the whole lot in one go.

Sorry if my post came across a bit strong !

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grandveneur
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Re: I.HOLLIS & SONS cal .475 No 2 [Re: Kalunga]
#135609 - 19/05/09 01:10 AM

Quote:

It looks nice, but I would never buy a double or any other gun in that price category at egun without thorough inspection and a visit to the shooting range. Besides, I think the price is a little bit too high.

Kalunga

That's a good price! Very difficult to get a old british double cheaper today! I think accuracy is not the problem if you can get the right ammunition caliber .475 !

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Re: I.HOLLIS & SONS cal .475 No 2 [Re: grandveneur]
#135616 - 19/05/09 02:28 AM

Online translators do not do a good job when speaking gun lingo.

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Re: I.HOLLIS & SONS cal .475 No 2 [Re: casper50]
#135617 - 19/05/09 02:31 AM

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Online translators do not do a good job when speaking gun lingo.

Yes, but it's still better than nothing,

This isn't bad - from Google Translate which I think is one of the worst translators.

I. HOLLIS & SONS DOUBLE Rifle Cal .475 # 2, London

GREENER DEFEATED - very rare!

Beginning 20 years of sign. Specially built for Oakes & Son Limited

TOPRESTAURATION - Shaft refurbished, in England the Bunthärtung professionally renewed

screwed firing pin, barrel massive hooks

Bunthärtung executed in England

Runs in very good condition

Backing up to the neck flask

Shaft length 37cm, Total Length 103cm, Length 60,5 cm

Weighing approximately 4.7 Kg

Perfect big game rifle

IN THE INTEREST PHOTO DOCUMENTATION REQUEST

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peter
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Re: I.HOLLIS & SONS cal .475 No 2 [Re: 500Nitro]
#135619 - 19/05/09 03:03 AM

93mouse

it looks like a fine gun but the price is a lot higher, than what they go for in england at the auctions.

expect 6-8.000 £ in london at auctions, the hard to get calibers brings in less, that looks in good condition from the pictures but in a off caliber like that would bring around 6.500£

hope this helps as i dont want to rain on anybody's parade, but as i see it they are trying to get american prices in europe, which is not the way it usually plays out.

best regards

peter

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Re: I.HOLLIS & SONS cal .475 No 2 [Re: 93mouse]
#135621 - 19/05/09 03:23 AM

Looks to be a neat gun, however it's a tough buy given the demographics of it's location.

I agree with Peter, it seems a bit high price wise.

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93mouse
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Re: I.HOLLIS & SONS cal .475 No 2 [Re: peter]
#135623 - 19/05/09 04:00 AM

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93mouse

it looks like a fine gun but the price is a lot higher, than what they go for in england at the auctions.

expect 6-8.000 £ in london at auctions, the hard to get calibers brings in less, that looks in good condition from the pictures but in a off caliber like that would bring around 6.500£

hope this helps as i dont want to rain on anybody's parade, but as i see it they are trying to get american prices in europe, which is not the way it usually plays out.

best regards

peter

Thanks Peter - the info I was looking for - where the Hollis fits in a price range - I am not going to break my neck buying a double - I am looking at it as "once in a lifetime"

...however if a good deal appears... and 475 No2 (or 450 No2) has a soft place somewhere in me - IMO it can't be more British than that

- with ammo Kynoch is still on - BTW is there any difference between .475 No2 Elley and .475 No2 Jeffery?

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grandveneur
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Re: I.HOLLIS & SONS cal .475 No 2 [Re: 93mouse]
#135670 - 20/05/09 12:25 AM

- BTW is there any difference between .475 No2 Elley and .475 No2 Jeffery? [/quote

Caliber .483 and caliber.488 !

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500Nitro
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Re: I.HOLLIS & SONS cal .475 No 2 [Re: grandveneur]
#135672 - 20/05/09 12:44 AM

Yes.

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Kalunga
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Re: I.HOLLIS & SONS cal .475 No 2 [Re: 500Nitro]
#135678 - 20/05/09 02:00 AM

....and bullet weight, 480 and 500 grains

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