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casper50
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The sweet smell of success.
#135463 - 16/05/09 10:45 AM

Regulation load found for my 1885 Alex Henry double on the third try. I'm happy. 450-400 BPE. 250 grain cast flat nose bullet with 34.2 grains of 4198 with 3 grains of dacron filler at 50 yds. Iron sights and old eyes.

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mickey
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Re: The sweet smell of success. [Re: casper50]
#135465 - 16/05/09 10:49 AM

Very nice. Plenty good enough.

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9.3x57
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Re: The sweet smell of success. [Re: mickey]
#135467 - 16/05/09 11:13 AM

Very nice indeed.

About what velocity are you getting?

And by the way, with that group who cares about old eyes!

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casper50
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Re: The sweet smell of success. [Re: 9.3x57]
#135469 - 16/05/09 11:29 AM

No chrony so I have no idea on the velocity. I'm taking it black bear hunting tomorrow.

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9.3x57
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Re: The sweet smell of success. [Re: casper50]
#135471 - 16/05/09 11:42 AM

Quote:

No chrony so I have no idea on the velocity. I'm taking it black bear hunting tomorrow.

Well, as long as that bullet runs faster than the bear you are good to go!!

Post the roast!

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tinker
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Re: The sweet smell of success. [Re: 9.3x57]
#135476 - 16/05/09 12:49 PM

Mike-

Right the frick on!
Do well on the bear.

When you get back and are taking a break from butchering your bear, ask for my balsamic reduction recipe.
You can substitute Port or some other sweet wine for the balsamic in the reduction pan if your local pantry is out of stock.
You won't regret it.

Cheers
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Paul
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Re: The sweet smell of success. [Re: tinker]
#135479 - 16/05/09 02:54 PM

Very nice grouping. I wonder if a load like that might have any application for plinking with a modern NE 450/400?

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Dutch44
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Re: The sweet smell of success. [Re: Paul]
#135905 - 22/05/09 06:40 AM

casper50:
That's the same type of groups I got out of my Rigby hammer 450-400. 255 grain lead but I was using 44 grains of 4198. Was your 34 grain load a typo? I was getting 1.3 to 1.5 inch groups at 100 yards and I bet your gun will do the same. Is your Alex Henry a hammer or hammerless underlever? Good shooting, my friend.

Dutch

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casper50
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Re: The sweet smell of success. [Re: Dutch44]
#135911 - 22/05/09 07:25 AM

A hammer underlever. I just received an email from Dickson that said it was a "best gun" made in 1879.

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Dutch44
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Re: The sweet smell of success. [Re: casper50]
#135949 - 22/05/09 10:49 PM

Now that's a nice rifle! I'd say best gun adequately describes it! Does Dickson have the records for Alex Henry? If so, what is the charge? I have two I'd like to have them research. Thanks,

Dutch

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Re: The sweet smell of success. [Re: Dutch44]
#135963 - 23/05/09 12:19 AM

I'd try as Dutch did and keep experimenting with your fine rifle. 44gr. 4198 sounds much better to me, however the 34gr. should work on black bears OK.

I'd think your velcoity should be in the 1,300fps to 1,450fps range, not higher than that.

I don't have COTW handy so don't know what the factory speeds were for that round, but that's what I'd strive for.

I would think 44gr. should move that light 250gr. out somewhere in the 1,700 to 1,750fps range.

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casper50
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Re: The sweet smell of success. [Re: DarylS]
#135987 - 23/05/09 07:06 AM

Dutch I just emailed them and asked for info on my SN. They emailed me back within 24 hours.

http://www.dicksonandmacnaughton.com/contact/index.html

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Dutch44
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Re: The sweet smell of success. [Re: casper50]
#136040 - 24/05/09 06:49 AM

Casper50:
Thank you for the connection. I'll send both serial numbers. Thanks again and good luck with the load testing.

Dutch

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casper50
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Re: The sweet smell of success. [Re: Dutch44]
#136076 - 25/05/09 12:09 AM

By the way Dickson said it was made in 1879 not 1885.

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500grains
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Re: The sweet smell of success. [Re: casper50]
#136079 - 25/05/09 12:23 AM

That is a great rifle.

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merkel141
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Re: The sweet smell of success. [Re: casper50]
#136662 - 04/06/09 02:33 AM

Nice rifle & great group. I am jelous!! Hope you take a bear with that cool piece of history. I take my DR chasing NB bears soon too.
Best of luck.

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casper50
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Re: The sweet smell of success. [Re: merkel141]
#136701 - 04/06/09 07:32 PM

Shot last Thursday. He's small but real tender and tasty.

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alexbeer
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Re: The sweet smell of success. [Re: casper50]
#136706 - 04/06/09 09:17 PM

casper50

Nice group,
Nice rifle,
Nice bear.

Well done on all three.

Alex

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9.3x57
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Re: The sweet smell of success. [Re: alexbeer]
#136719 - 04/06/09 11:42 PM

Nice job!!

What was the final load?

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casper50
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Re: The sweet smell of success. [Re: 9.3x57]
#136728 - 05/06/09 12:55 AM

Alex the load was the same as above. I haven't had much time to go to the range lately. The bullet went in the left side forward of the second to last rib, went out the far shoulder breaking the leg. The bear went 20 yds. Good thing, in the rain there was no blood trail.

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