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ALAN_MCKENZIE
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357 Mag load using 200 gn Hornady projectiles.????
      #13503 - 15/04/04 12:12 AM

I need a load for my 357 mag using 200 gn sp interlock hornadys.
I've seen them loaded in a 357 max so assume they can be loaded into a 357 mag.
These new gun regs sure have put the kybosh on heavy artillery in the handgun field.
Revolver is a Taurus Tracker with 6 inch barrel.
Al


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Re: 357 Mag load using 200 gn Hornady projectiles.???? [Re: ALAN_MCKENZIE]
      #13522 - 15/04/04 01:07 PM

I don't know about using a 200 gr bullet in a 357. Depending on your cylinder length, you may be limited to that length for your OAL. Because of the length of the 200, you will run out of case capacity for its use. I guesstimate that you'll only get under 1000 f/s or so if you're lucky. I would suggest that you think about using a 180 gr bullet instead. You'll probably get better than 1100 f/s with that load in your 6" barrel. Since I use mainly 44 Mag or bigger, I just use the biggest bore I can control if I needed something for penetration. The only revolver that has gotten phenomenal velocities with a 200 grainer has been a Freedom Arms Single Action. They get the velocities because of the tight tolerances built into the revolver. I've never heard of any other revolver that will give the velocities needed except for tight chambered custom 5 shot revolvers.

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ALAN_MCKENZIE
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Re: 357 Mag load using 200 gn Hornady projectiles.???? [Re: 475Guy]
      #13536 - 16/04/04 12:02 AM

Mate thanks for your reply.
You are 100% correct with the OAL.
The 200 wont fit.
What would you sugest in the way of a load using 180 gn projectiles including brand ..
Remembering that I want penertration on thick skinned creatures.
Alan

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Re: 357 Mag load using 200 gn Hornady projectiles.???? [Re: ALAN_MCKENZIE]
      #13548 - 16/04/04 07:53 AM

Since you are an ozzie, check out

http://adi-limited.com/handloaders-guide/index.asp

Good luck on finding a good load.

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Re: 357 Mag load using 200 gn Hornady projectiles.???? [Re: 475Guy]
      #17525 - 02/08/04 08:52 PM

how ya goin mate.I have been shooting metallic silhouette handgun for a while now and a lot of us are using 200gn projectiles in 357 mag.Mostly cast lead but some jacketed.I am using a s&w 586,others are using freedom arms.the freedom has a longer cylinder than the smith.Your taurus cylinder might not be long enough.The load i use should be used at own risk and worked up to.I use ADI AR2205 powder,home cast 200gn lead gas checked projectile,small rifle primers,13.5 grs of powder,o.a.l is 1.665 seated into the crimp groove .which gives enough room to be inside the cylinder.You should look up your local I.H.M.S.A branch in WA to talk to some silhouette shooters before loading this to confirm for yourself.You might want to consider buying a smith 586 or 686,freedoms cost a packet and are hard to seperate from their owners.

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Re: 357 Mag load using 200 gn Hornady projectiles.???? [Re: ALAN_MCKENZIE]
      #17674 - 07/08/04 02:39 PM

Alan:
I have never used a 200-grainer in the .357, but have some experience with the 180-grain Speer silhouette bullet. It may still be sold as a 'FMJ Flat Nose', though the jacket is much thinner than military-type 'ball' projectiles. Its not really a flat-nose in the usual sense, either, being fairly pointy with a small flat meplat like the current crop of 'protected-point' bullets. Speer Product Number was/is 4229.

My load is 10.35 grains of Blue Dot, which averages 1205 fps in a S&W 686. I carry this revolver for protection against feral stock and dangerous wildlife while conducting field survey work in remote areas, and the load is as close as I can get to a potential short-range 'stopper' for scrub-cattle, buffalo, or crocs in the .357.

Warning: this load is stout in my revolver, and is probably close to maximum. It is not for every-day silhouette or range shooting, or I suspect the 686 would become very rattly in short order! As usual, start well below and work up...

Again, sorry I couldn't help with the 200-grainer.


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ALAN_MCKENZIE
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Re: 357 Mag load using 200 gn Hornady projectiles.???? [Re: Marrakai]
      #17738 - 09/08/04 09:46 PM

Marrakai and Wharf,thanks for your resplies.
I have been using some Westcastings hardcast coated 180 gn projectiles and gradually increasing the MV to around 1100fps with no loss in acuracy.
I've just got to find something to test the penertration on.
Plenty of pigs in the hills above me so will soon find out if they work..
I will keep you informed.......
Al

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