Geronimo
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I'm a new user but have been reading the various threads on this forum for many months. I've read many opinions, mostly favorable, regarding the Searcy. I've seen nothing on the Wm. Douglas double. The reason I ask is that I am in the market for a good "working" double and these two seem to fit the bill. Just like to hear some opinions, pros as well as cons.
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RLI
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Check the classifieds I have a William Douglass for sale, Please contact me on smurray@vtown.com.au . Thanks
RLI
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mickey
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I usually try and stay out of these type of discussions, being a peace loving fellow and not prone to controversy or opinionated conversation, but I will give it a go.
Firstly, I can't vouch for the mechanical superiority of one over the other but I would bet money that they are both up to the job at hand and you would have no worries over either.
Secondly, The Douglas is built along the lines of a traditional Brit Rifle. (It is designed and assembled in Britain after all) This includes Chopper Lump Barrels from Austria and nice engraving. Hand fitted, well balanced and I am told quite accurate.
Thirdly, The Searcy is made in the US and can be fitted to the original owner. (A plus) I have found the older Searcys very clubby and awkward but according to the guys I pay some attention to  the new PH model is pretty good. Slimmer and very accurate. Searcy uses a monobloc barrel arrangement which is supposed to be as strong as a Chopper Lump but I have not been convinced yet. It is certainly strong enough though. It is a way to keep the price down and he does offer Chopper Lumps for an additional amount. The engraving on one of the Searcys I have looked at was atrocious. I think it was supposed to be the Elephant Ndlulamithi but who knows for sure. It made the old Indian Jefferys look good. 
The Douglas is around US$12,00.00 and the Searcy PH US$9.500-11,000. Used I think they are about equal also.
I would suggest that if you have narrowed your choice down to these two that you look at them and shoot them both before putting up your money. It is allot of dough to not do some serious investigation and shopping.
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DBBill
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There is a very nicely priced 470 Douglas on GunsAmerica
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Rusty
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I usually try and stay out of these type of discussions, being a peace loving fellow and not prone to controversy or opinionated conversation, but I will give it a go.
Who are you? And what have you done with our Mickey?  
I believe that chopper lumps on a Searcy are an "optional" item. I think they both make a fine product.
I don't think Butch puts 26" barrels on his rifles.
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450Dakota
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In reply to:
I have a William Douglas for sale
HEY!!
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atkinson6
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I have a Searcy and its my first American made double, I have always used British doubles in the past...
This gun is the PH model in a 470 N.E., it is slimmer and trimmer than the old searcys.. It will shoot a 500 gr. bullet at 2245 FPS, that's its regulation load from the factory, and it will also shoot to the same POI as a 500 gr. bullet at 2020 FPS and a lead 500 gr. bullet at 1700 FPS and all will touch two bullets at 50 yards. It will shoot any 500 gr. bullet to same POI also, and you can shoot BarnesX or any monolithic bullet in it, and I have never heard of one shooting off the face...I have not seen any other double come close to that.. To top that off Butch borrowed it and walked away with first place at the National double Rifle shoot off in Sacramento last week....
Needless to say which one I like, but 500 grs. who posts here says the same thing about his, as will the good judge very soon...
As to a working rifle, the Searcy simply cannot be beat, and if something goes heywire, just send it to Butch and he will fix it.... I have owned enough doubles to guarentee that..
Before this rifle I was a dyed in the wool English rifle person, but I have come to realize that 99.9 percent of them are made of poor steel and are simply worn out, been blacked umpteen million times, most have a certain amount of wood decay and most have bores that don't look so good..Few of them shoot worth a flip and most are simply worn out as a 100 year old rifle should be..But they do balance very well indeed, and are a great investment if one knows his double rifles..I have always made big bucks off most of my English double rifle investments...
I have now slayed the sacred cow! and expect to be defamed, gilflurted and Swighaultered without mercy or even the least bit of consideration, but so be it, its time to bring all you old duffs into the light...  
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DUGABOY1
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In reply to:
The Douglas is around US$12,00.00 and the Searcy PH US$9.500-11,000. Used I think they are about equal also.
Man!........ Micky where are you finding a Willliam Douglas double rifle for $1200 USD?
I'll buy several at that price! 
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mickey
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Picky, Picky, Picky That's only the second mistake I've ever made. The first one was when I thought I made a mistake but found out I was wrong.
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