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larcher
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Last hunts in Okavongo Delta, 2 ele bulls available
      #132886 - 20/04/09 10:43 PM

My friend Francois Dannaud is offering 2 ele hunts in the delta of the Okavango in Botswana.
In march 2009, President Ian Khama has informed the 4 outfitters in the Okabango (Splash, Abu, Khwai & Rann safaris)that hunting will be closed for ever in the end of the season, september 2009. The delat will become a Non-hunting area.

Francois is offering 2 elephant bulls for those who wants to enjoy this paradise for the last time.

If interested, please contact

Francois DANNAUD
Dannaud Safaris
21, avenue Thierry -
92410 Ville d'avray - FRANCE
PHONE 33 1 41 15 58 50
Fax : 33 1 47 09 51 79

Cell : 33 6 61 51 70 80 -

dannaud@dannaudsafaris.com

though he is guidint in Ethipia yet.

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EricD
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Re: Last hunts in Okavongo Delta, 2 ele bulls available [Re: larcher]
      #132888 - 20/04/09 11:54 PM

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In march 2009, President Ian Khama has informed the 4 outfitters in the Okabango (Splash, Abu, Khwai & Rann safaris)that hunting will be closed for ever in the end of the season, september 2009. The delat will become a Non-hunting area.




What a damn shame. It's a pity that the Botswanan government has been infiltrated by so many anti-hunting people, who have personal financial interests in the photo-safari business.


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SafariHunt
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Re: Last hunts in Okavongo Delta, 2 ele bulls available [Re: larcher]
      #132895 - 21/04/09 01:04 AM

It is a real shame that hunting will be closed in one of the top elephant areas in the world. Maybe the president would rather have a population of elephants to reign over than all his people dying off with aids ?

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Re: Last hunts in Okavongo Delta, 2 ele bulls available [Re: EricD]
      #132896 - 21/04/09 01:26 AM

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What a damn shame. It's a pity that the Botswanan government has been infiltrated by so many anti-hunting people, who have personal financial interests in the photo-safari business.




Hunters are a pain in the ass to Game Bureaucrats.

Just ask the Idaho Fish and Game Department, or so it seems.

I'm afraid this photosafari crap has permeated the game NONmanagement philosophy of game departments throughout the world. Here it is not called "photosafari", but rather "biodiversity" that demands "management" for non-take enthusiasts as well as hunters.

Over 50% of revenue to Idaho Fish and Game Department now comes from non-hunter/non-fisherman sources such as Federal research grants. This is NOT income to the Department from NONtake enthusiasts. THEY don't pay for their enjoyment of game. It is taxpayer dollars getting to the Dept. thru roundabout routes.

To paraphrase a certain Jewish Rabbi, "Where the money is there also is the heart".

Increasingly the money is from sources other than the hunter and fisherman but NOT from the nontake enthusiast. The woods increasingly seems to favor the biologist over the sportsman and subsistence hunter/fisherman. Just been reading several Id F&G reports and the disease permeates them; the rubbish that nonhunters WILL {but doesn't now} provide significant revenue to both private economy and State F&G Department and therefore should be encouraged by the Department. Yet, still, nontake enthusiasts don't directly pay for wildlife management, hunters directly do... Increasingly, by circuitous routes as mentioned, taxpayers do. All this a justification for nongame species introduction and promotion by the Department and naturally restrictions on hunting and fishing opportunity are/will be the result. This control is in my opinion the American form of African corruption. Follow the money, not the mandate.

And hunter dollars fund the very Department that does not in my opinion have their interests at heart.

So...if the Department is going to get so much money from other nondirect sources that benefit nontake enthusiasts who don't pay for their wildlife enjoyment...why don't they simply eliminate license and tag fees for hunters and fishermen...

The issues facing hunters the world over are surprisingly and shockingly similar; bureacrats seizing power under the guise of reaching out to nonhunters and being inclusive of them in their plans.

That the Botswanan leadership wanted to little-by-little boot the hunting industry out of the country is not surprising.

Also similar is the response; I hear more and more people say that because the Idaho Fish and Game Department is turning traitor to its legal mandate to manage game and fish for the hunter and fishermen, they will merely respond by NOT buying tags and licenses but hunting anyhow.

This is the "First World" version of the type of response that always seems to follow African bans on hunting.

It is crude and blunt to say it, but true nonetheless; "If it pays, it stays. If it costs, its lost".

The gun and license traded for the snare and knobkerrie...??

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Edited by 9.3x57 (21/04/09 02:48 AM)


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Re: Last hunts in Okavongo Delta, 2 ele bulls available [Re: 9.3x57]
      #132960 - 21/04/09 11:55 AM

" Maybe the president would rather have a population of elephants to reign over than all his people dying off with aids ? "


More likely a large population of cattle will one day be populating these elephants lands. If tetse fly is being controlled in these regions. I remember hearing they thought tetse fly would soon cease to be a problem in the delta meaning cattle could be moved in. ?

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SafariHunt
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Re: Last hunts in Okavongo Delta, 2 ele bulls available [Re: NitroX]
      #132976 - 21/04/09 02:45 PM

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More likely a large population of cattle will one day be populating these elephants lands. If tetse fly is being controlled in these regions. I remember hearing they thought tetse fly would soon cease to be a problem in the delta meaning cattle could be moved in. ?




Yes John also much more likely but he will still have to get rid of the massive population of elephants first since there would be no feed for cattle.

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Re: Last hunts in Okavongo Delta, 2 ele bulls available [Re: SafariHunt]
      #133005 - 21/04/09 09:07 PM

Well, after that, there is always Namibia's Caprivi. Its the closest to the Okavango in distance. species, and habitat, though some areas have more people.

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