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weedypigeon
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Game hunting of problem Crocodiles
#130958 - 31/03/09 09:36 AM

An item in this mornings Cairns Post newspaper has asked for an online vote. The question is:- Do you support game hunting of problem crocodiles? So far the vote is 70% yes. Without getting into the rights and wrongs of shooting"" problem"" crocodiles, recent events have shown that it takes a lot of resources to actually trap and relocate these crocs.One particular croc was transported from Cape York to here to go to the local croc farm, God knows what that cost but it wouldn't have been cheap. As a ratepayer and taxpayer it seems to make sense to me to let a trophy hunter wear the expense and do the job for us. It's doubtful if a cull would ever be allowed.

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500Nitro
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Re: Game hunting of problem Crocodiles [Re: weedypigeon]
#130963 - 31/03/09 10:30 AM

well the thing is, in remote areas, problem crocs are just shot by land owners (legally), so no one gets any benefit
out of it.

Not sure what happens in Qld / FNQ but that is the case in NT.

Even aborigines shoot them just for meat - a waste IMHO.

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kamilaroi
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Re: Game hunting of problem Crocodiles [Re: 500Nitro]
#130979 - 31/03/09 05:53 PM

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well the thing is, in remote areas, problem crocs are just shot by land owners (legally), so no one gets any benefit
out of it.

Not sure what happens in Qld / FNQ but that is the case in NT.

Even aborigines shoot them - a waste IMHO.

I think (note: not believe) you have been misinformed on Aboriginal peoples activities associated with balkanu.

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500Nitro
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Re: Game hunting of problem Crocodiles [Re: kamilaroi]
#130980 - 31/03/09 06:25 PM

KAMILAROI

What do you mean by "misinformed" ?

Are you saying they don't shoot them ?
I will disagree with you on that.

I will change my wording in that they don't "waste" them
as they eat them, but the same result could be achieved if
a paid hunter shot them.

Just my HO.

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kamilaroi
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Re: Game hunting of problem Crocodiles [Re: 500Nitro]
#130989 - 31/03/09 09:43 PM

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KAMILAROI

What do you mean by "misinformed" ?

Are you saying they don't shoot them ?
I will disagree with you on that.

I will change my wording in that they don't "waste" them
as they eat them, but the same result could be achieved if
a paid hunter shot them.

Just my HO.

There is more to people taking crocs than in eating or resource useage (hides). Some people have a totemic association and therefore a direction to observe traditional conservational practices etc.
(as have others)

I think NAILSMA has some generic info. Otherwise talk to local fellas across the top end

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500Nitro
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Re: Game hunting of problem Crocodiles [Re: kamilaroi]
#130991 - 31/03/09 09:49 PM

Yes, agree with you their. Depends what areas you go.

Most of the people I have been with have no problems
killing crocs - and eating them.

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JabaliHunter
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Re: Game hunting of problem Crocodiles [Re: 500Nitro]
#130993 - 31/03/09 10:14 PM

They taste pretty good - at least the farmed ones in Zim did...

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500Nitro
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Re: Game hunting of problem Crocodiles [Re: JabaliHunter]
#130994 - 31/03/09 10:21 PM

Ate farmed years ago in NT, now eat Fresh whenever they kill one. I like it.

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NitroX
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Re: Game hunting of problem Crocodiles [Re: kamilaroi]
#131089 - 01/04/09 04:46 PM

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Quote:

KAMILAROI

What do you mean by "misinformed" ?

Are you saying they don't shoot them ?
I will disagree with you on that.

I will change my wording in that they don't "waste" them
as they eat them, but the same result could be achieved if
a paid hunter shot them.

Just my HO.

There is more to people taking crocs than in eating or resource useage (hides). Some people have a totemic association and therefore a direction to observe traditional conservational practices etc.
(as have others)

I think NAILSMA has some generic info. Otherwise talk to local fellas across the top end

Kamilaroi,

Obviously as they local people would be the landowners in the area/local council etc, if they have a problem with the taking or hunting of crocodiles, they wouldn't have to let it happen in the areas that are sensitive. Or do they still take them but under specific circumstances eg as you mention "traditional conservational practices"? Interesting. Please elaborate if you are able.

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kamilaroi
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Re: Game hunting of problem Crocodiles [Re: NitroX]
#131172 - 02/04/09 08:03 AM

Yaama John,

In short some folk have a crocodile as their totem. With this is the obligation to protect and a restriction on eating same. (while the rest of the mob can)
Otherwise some crocs are associated with stories/cautionary tales to a particular place and in particular large males are sacrosanct as some believe they harbour the spirits of the dead.

capiche?

In Arnhem Land species are divided into two; Duuwha and Yirritja. This is in short a pre Linnean classification of species as each has defined relationships to those in immediate ecosystemic and cultural relationships, thus denoting not only them but an obligation to protect and conserve the entire ecosystem. A precise system that predates euro musings by several millenia (Aldo Leuoplod et al are certainly not the originators of practical conservation)

Similar systems and obligations operate all over this way.

Yiyaalu

K

Edited by kamilaroi (02/04/09 10:02 PM)

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NitroX
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Re: Game hunting of problem Crocodiles [Re: kamilaroi]
#131195 - 02/04/09 12:15 PM

OK Thanks.

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