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9.3x57
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Australian Game Ranching?
      #129746 - 16/03/09 11:26 PM

Not sure if anybody has ever asked this, but has there ever been an attempt to relocate African big game to Australia?

I am familiar with the general history of introduced speces and the at-times disastrous results there {and elsewhere for that matter...}, but nevertheless, have there been any attempts to introduce say, lion, elephant, etc. OR even plains game?

Are there any laws barring this?

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Re: Australian Game Ranching? [Re: 9.3x57]
      #129755 - 17/03/09 01:51 AM

We have enough trouble with the pests already introduced into Australia without some bloody fool trying to introduce more.
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Re: Australian Game Ranching? [Re: ALAN_MCKENZIE]
      #129757 - 17/03/09 02:07 AM

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We have enough trouble with the pests already introduced into Australia without some bloody fool trying to introduce more.
Al




Just as I suspected.

Has anybody actually tried it?

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Re: Australian Game Ranching? [Re: 9.3x57]
      #129796 - 17/03/09 08:36 AM

Warren whats his name has (or had) the big joint in the top end of NT full of all sorts of African animals,yep surprised me also he even has rhinos there...heres a line from the ABC



But when the vast Tipperary Station in the northern territory changed hands a few months ago, the new owners suddenly found themselves in possession of some rather unusual property � 2,200 exotic animals mostly from the wilds of Africa, all bought by the previous owner, millionaire developer Warren Anderson, to stock his own private zoo. Among them rhinoceros, giraffes, zebras and hippopotami, to name just a few.

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Re: Australian Game Ranching? [Re: gryphon]
      #129797 - 17/03/09 08:41 AM

JH would remember this

arren Anderson plans to shoot Tipperary station animals
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PM - Wednesday, 12 November , 2003 18:26:00
Reporter: Anne Barker
MARK COLVIN: There were bizarre scenes at Darwin airport today when the millionaire property developer, Warren Anderson, arrived from Perth, amid reports that he was planning to shoot hundreds of rare and exotic animals at his private zoo on the remote Tipperary station.

The Northern Territory Government was forced to feed the animals over a month ago, after Warren Anderson handed the station to new owners and the animal feed ran out. The Government has since sent Mr Anderson a hefty bill, and today the Supreme Court granted an urgent injunction prohibiting him from killing a single animal on the station.

As Anne Barker reports, the property developer today spoke angrily of shooting journalists instead.

REPORTER: Mr Anderson, what's the condition of the animals?

WARREN ANDERSON: You don't know what's happening.

ANNE BARKER: The man who owns arguably Australia's most unusual zoo walked into a media circus when he arrived at Darwin airport this afternoon.

REPORTER: Do you know what's happening, Mr Anderson? Can you tell us.

WARREN ANDERSON: Go away.

REPORTER: Are you considering shooting the animals?

WARREN ANDERSON: Go away, I have cared for them for fifteen years. Now go away.

REPORTER: Why aren't you caring for them now Mr Anderson?

WARREN ANDERSON: I spent $250,000 this year. How much do you earn a year?

REPORTER: Certainly not that much.

WARREN ANDERSON: Go away.

ANNE BARKER: Warren Anderson arrived in Darwin with a rifle bag, apparently to shoot his entire collection of rare and endangered animals at the private wildlife sanctuary he set up on the vast Tipperary Station.

2,200 animals, among them giraffes, zebras, a pygmy hippopotamus, a scimitar-horned oryx and one of the world's rarest species, a white rhinoceros, have effectively been on death row since Mr Anderson abandoned them when he sold the station earlier this year.

The Northern Territory Government was forced to pick up the $13,000 tab for animal feed when the wildlife sanctuary manager Kevin Freeman complained more than a month ago that the food supply had run out.

But today an angry Mr Anderson denied he'd neglected the animals and revealed he would pay the bill.

WARREN ANDERSON: It's a lousy $13,000, payable by the end of December.

REPORTER: What's that for?

WARREN ANDERSON: Hay.

REPORTER: For hay? And the figure of $70,000?

REPORTER: Where does that come from?

WARREN ANDERSON: Someone has manufactured it in their minds...

REPORTER: Where was the misunderstanding Mr Anderson, where was the misunderstanding?

WARREN ANDERSON: � like you people always do. Go away.

ANNE BARKER: But the Government's more immediate worry was Mr Anderson's threat to shoot the animals, rather than pay for their continued upkeep. When he sold the station the new owners gave him two years to dispose of his private zoo and Kevin Freeman today told the Supreme Court that Mr Anderson had rung him last night threatening to shoot the lot.

KEVIN FREEMAN (testimony): I'll be up there to sort it out tomorrow, I'll be bringing some big boys with some big guns and we're going to smoke everything.

ANNE BARKER: Almost as Mr Anderson stepped off the plane, the Supreme Court granted an injunction prohibiting him from shooting, killing or disposing of a single animal on the station.

But oblivious to the court order, Mr Anderson gave reporters no guarantees the animals wouldn't be shot.

REPORTER: Sir, the Government's obviously concerned you're going to try and shoot the animals.

WARREN ANDERSON: So what? They belong to me.

REPORTER: And will you shoot them? What are the guns for?

WARREN ANDERSON: To protect myself from pests.

REPORTER: Will you be taking the guns to the property?

WARREN ANDERSON: I can't use them on the pests, because it's against the law. You're a grub. You're a grub.

REPORTER: Speaking of grubs, what about all the animals on the farm, though?

WARREN ANDERSON: You go down there and have a look and see whether there's one animal that's starved.

REPORTER: And what will we find?

WARREN ANDERSON: You won't find any.

REPORTER: So what made your park manager...?

WARREN ANDERSON: Officer, can you tell this bloke to go away from me? Please ask him because otherwise I'll deal with him.

ANNE BARKER: And even after Mr Anderson finally drove away, leaving the media behind, a police car pulled him over to check the paperwork for his rifle was in order.

MARK COLVIN: Anne Barker reporting.

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Re: Australian Game Ranching? [Re: gryphon]
      #129806 - 17/03/09 10:08 AM

Idiot journalists. And Courts. Most of the animals there are not "rare and endangered" even if they are "from Africa".

"A zoo". 2,200 animals, I bet he hunted them as well.

I forget what the main species were. As usual the pathetic gutter journalism concentrates on sensationalism rather than facts. Eland, and zebra were among them.

I believe a lot of the animals were sold to a few other properties including Mary River.

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Re: Australian Game Ranching? [Re: NitroX]
      #129808 - 17/03/09 10:09 AM

Personally I think it would be great to have African game animals in Australia in huntable proportions.

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Re: Australian Game Ranching? [Re: NitroX]
      #129826 - 17/03/09 12:06 PM

I think that if he had that many on the large properties that you have over there, that de facto you have a breeding population on the loose right now.

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Re: Australian Game Ranching? [Re: Bramble]
      #129840 - 17/03/09 02:22 PM

Quote:

I think that if he had that many on the large properties that you have over there, that de facto you have a breeding population on the loose right now.




Doesn't seem to be the case on this place. Whilst it is a large holding, the animals were housed in very structurally sound yards. Even the giraffes had a super dooper high fence with brick pillars close together (for about 2km's x 2km's)

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Re: Australian Game Ranching? [Re: MarkR]
      #129851 - 17/03/09 06:18 PM

The whole thing was a setup by an NT police person with the media. I understand the police person was hauled over the coals for grossly improper conduct afterward.

I was also at the counter soritn something in Firearms Branch when Warren Anderson came in to get copies of paperwork relating to this case, so I heard some of his views on the matter (expressed with courtesy and care). He publicly refused to press charges against the police involved.


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Re: Australian Game Ranching? [Re: ChrisPer]
      #129857 - 17/03/09 09:03 PM

9.3x57:
Kevin Gleeson's joint is probably as close as you will get to actual hunting of exotic species in Australia:

Mary River Ranch, Northern Territory

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Re: Australian Game Ranching? [Re: Marrakai]
      #129859 - 17/03/09 09:12 PM

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9.3x57:
Kevin Gleeson's joint is probably as close as you will get to actual hunting of exotic species in Australia:

Mary River Ranch, Northern Territory




Marrakai

No African species listed yet I'm sure he has eland and maybe sable, zebra there as well? Do you know what species?

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Re: Australian Game Ranching? [Re: NitroX]
      #129896 - 18/03/09 05:40 AM

Look how the Oryx have done so well in NM,they would do even better out back here.



they tell me there some good hunting at Dubbo! Grin!

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Re: Australian Game Ranching? [Re: gryphon]
      #129931 - 18/03/09 02:56 PM


His fencing on Tipperary Station might have been good but there is still a Pigmy Hippo living wild in a Billabong.



Edited by gryphon (19/03/09 04:50 AM)


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Re: Australian Game Ranching? [Re: Woodlea]
      #129961 - 19/03/09 01:30 AM

There is a wild Eland population up North on a Station.

I heard there were some Gemsbok and Kudu there too but can't swear by it.

There are/were Black Buck around Birdsville 20 years ago.

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Re: Australian Game Ranching? [Re: Woodlea]
      #129968 - 19/03/09 04:51 AM

That lion was out ten minutes before it was shot dead

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Re: Australian Game Ranching? [Re: gryphon]
      #129991 - 19/03/09 09:13 AM

and chital around Cobar. I think the blackbuck went west into pituri country.

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Re: Australian Game Ranching? [Re: kamilaroi]
      #130070 - 20/03/09 10:28 AM

But black panthers everywhere!

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Re: Australian Game Ranching? [Re: NitroX]
      #130285 - 23/03/09 05:29 PM

Most of the animals from Tipperary Station ended up at Mary River. They now have breeding herds of Scimitar Oryx, Eland, Kafue Lechwe, Addax and Nilgai. I think they are Kafue species... All of the other animals died - Kudu, Zebra, etc. Not sure about the pygmy hippo - last I heard it was being baby-sat at Tipperary.

Mary River has been applying for, but to date (AFAIK) could not get export permits for the African and Indian game but they are not allowed as they are held under zoo licence. They need to start 'hunting' some as they are breeding! esp the Oryx. Must be expensive to keep feeding them....

I have been there - it is pretty cool seeing an eland bull shading himself under a red gum.. Lots of fun taking photos of them..

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Re: Australian Game Ranching? [Re: Matt_Graham]
      #130370 - 24/03/09 08:39 PM

I know a guy who helped cull some rusa and Chital from that area. He arrived at my place with 3 esky's full of meat. We dined well over the next few weeks.

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Re: Australian Game Ranching? [Re: Bakes]
      #130388 - 25/03/09 01:33 AM

from Tipperary or Mary River?

I know they shot a LOT of animals at Tipperary...what a waste...

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Re: Australian Game Ranching? [Re: Matt_Graham]
      #130478 - 26/03/09 12:28 AM

Don't know where Matt but it may of been Tipperary. They were culling the deer as they wanted to get back into cattle. Pete went around talking to people, trying to find somewhere to hunt. He stopped in at a station and they knocked him back. As he went to leave they asked if he wanted to help out in culling some deer. Being a former butcher he couldn't stand to see any of the meat go to waste so he bought a heap home. That and a nice set of Rusa antlers.

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