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empirevr
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Pitting in muzzle loaders!
      #128896 - 06/03/09 09:58 PM

Any ideas about this?

A gun I am contemplating has two largish areas of pitting within the barrel, but not too deep and the rifling is fully intact/visible.

Is 12 lbs light for a 6-bore ML??? single barrel of course.

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Re: Pitting in muzzle loaders! [Re: empirevr]
      #128925 - 07/03/09 03:51 AM

Pitting can be somewhat eleviated with careful polishing with compounds and a lead lapp. The breech must be removed for this. Lapping with compounds or a lead lap smoothes and rounds/polishes the edges and helps them to release fouling when cleaning. With descent loads, it will shoot well - after polishing - most do.

Words cannot describe what the pitting is looks like - only seeing is understanding and recognising. To some people a slight roughness is pitting - any 'spot' in an otherwise perfectly polished mirror-bright finish, is pitting. It is normal for any gun that old to have a light dusting of fine pitting throughout - these can be polished somewhat and still shoot quite well - it isn't a 1,000 yard match rifle.

12 pounds is pretty light I think - meant for a load of probably no more than 200gr. That's a gun I'd like to own.

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Re: Pitting in muzzle loaders! [Re: DarylS]
      #128959 - 07/03/09 07:22 PM

Thanks

Pitting is at the muzzle end.......better no?

200gr is about 7.5 drams no? does that exist for a 6-bore???

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Re: Pitting in muzzle loaders! [Re: empirevr]
      #128987 - 08/03/09 02:49 AM

Whatever you want to put in it, 'exists' for a 6 bore. Since it has a single barrel, you can use whatever you want. With this gun, the more powder you put in, the lower it will probably shoot. You could shoot 100gr., 150gr. or 300gr.- whatever you want or can withstand - it's a single.

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Re: Pitting in muzzle loaders! [Re: DarylS]
      #128993 - 08/03/09 05:16 AM

Thankyou very much Daryl

What would the original big game load most likely have been?

Ben

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Re: Pitting in muzzle loaders! [Re: empirevr]
      #128995 - 08/03/09 07:07 AM

I find English single barrel breechloaders are often lighter than their double barreled counterparts. 8's weighing 12 to 13lbs for 10 drams and 4's weighing 15 to 17lbs for 12 to 16 drams. I guess if you only bought a single you had to tough out the recoil. Many 4 bore rifles had bore diameters that correspond to 5 or 6 bore but used the 4 bore case.

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Re: Pitting in muzzle loaders! [Re: gatsby]
      #128998 - 08/03/09 08:06 AM

3 threads dealing with this 6 bore single.

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Re: Pitting in muzzle loaders! [Re: DarylS]
      #129023 - 08/03/09 07:51 PM

Yes Daryl....I find it confusing myself, and apologise herewith.

But 2 are correct one is misplaced! I put it in single shots instead of muzzle loaders first.

The pitting question was generalised to muzzle loaders, not to the arm in question.

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Ben

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