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doubleriflejack
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Water buffalo horn, carving of---where to buy?
#128098 - 26/02/09 10:20 AM

As many of you know, the German gunmakers, especially prior to WWI, but to some degree to WWII, carved trigger guards, buttplates, and sometimes other parts for guns/rifles, from buffalo horn, horn that tends to be mostly black in color, but sometimes with some areas that are brown; with periodic blotches of white. I am quite certain that it was water buffalo horn from India that they used. I am in U.S.A.; have hunted big game all of my life, over past 40+ years, but, of course, have never hunted water or cape buffalo, so I know next to nothing about the animals and the horn. Did the early German gunmakers truly use buffalo horn from India, or what? Are the water buffalo in Australia the same species as the ones from India? How does cape buffalo horn compare to water buffalo horn? Is that water buffalo horn hollow or solid? Where can one buy pieces of such horn, large enough for carving triggerguards/buttplates, etc. as repladement pieces on these sort of guns/rifles?

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m4220
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Re: Water buffalo horn, carving of---where to buy? [Re: doubleriflejack]
#128099 - 26/02/09 10:30 AM

Doubleriflejack,

Here is the link to lewis & drake who have some very nice oversized horn buttplates for sale I bought a couple myself and am looking for someone to fit & checker one for one of mt Mauser sporting rifles. Nice chunk of horn but still needs to be shaped to fit & checkered.

http://www.drake.net/products/Buffalo-Horn-Butt-Plate?id=28848

m4220

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NitroX
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Re: Water buffalo horn, carving of---where to buy? [Re: doubleriflejack]
#128125 - 26/02/09 03:08 PM

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Are the water buffalo in Australia the same species as the ones from India?

More or less the same species.

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How does cape buffalo horn compare to water buffalo horn?

No idea.

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Is that water buffalo horn hollow or solid?

Both, hollow near the base, solid further along.

My new stock for my .30-06 has a water buffalo fore-end.

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500Nitro
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Re: Water buffalo horn, carving of---where to buy? [Re: NitroX]
#128130 - 26/02/09 03:47 PM

You use cow horn for Buffalo ends.

We cut all cow horns off but leave some male ones
as the horns aren't as solid as cow horns.

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450_EXPRESS
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Re: Water buffalo horn, carving of---where to buy? [Re: 500Nitro]
#128134 - 26/02/09 05:28 PM

Sometimes you can find whole horns on places like Ebay. I've been able to pick up some there.

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ozhunter
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Re: Water buffalo horn, carving of---where to buy? [Re: 450_EXPRESS]
#128139 - 26/02/09 06:23 PM

A couple stocks with Buffalo fore-end's.

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peter
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Re: Water buffalo horn, carving of---where to buy? [Re: ozhunter]
#128144 - 26/02/09 07:08 PM

these guys have everything you would want and they are good to do buisnes with.

http://www.dick.biz/dick/category/dickcatalog/Perlmutt-Horn-Knochen--Zaehne-19_226/detail.jsf

best

peter

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Marrakai
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Re: Water buffalo horn, carving of---where to buy? [Re: peter]
#128176 - 27/02/09 12:39 AM

You can buy horn trigger-guards already carved from Connecticut Shotguns or Galazan for 65 bucks: see here.

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Marty
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Re: Water buffalo horn, carving of---where to buy? [Re: NitroX]
#128179 - 27/02/09 01:16 AM

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Is that water buffalo horn hollow or solid?

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Both, hollow near the base, solid further along.

Well sort of. Its hollow after you pull it off the bone that goes up the inside of it. Till then it is solid.

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Edited by Marty (27/02/09 01:17 AM)

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