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Homer
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Re: Zg 47? [Re: 450_366]
      #157648 - 27/03/10 08:54 PM

G'Day 450_336

Isn't it nice to be able to think and dream of, what we would like to do and like to have!
Isn't life a treat!!!

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GoneShootin
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Re: Zg 47? [Re: Homer]
      #157720 - 28/03/10 09:37 PM

I wouldn't mind a ZG47, but at this stage i'm sorted for the hunting i do, 8x57 with 200gr loads for medium sized game (hopefully deer, if i ever go) and a .308 with 123gr for the smaller stuff. So i guess unless a zg47 shows up really cheap, i can just dream about one too.

My dad has an 8x68S, it's a great cartridge, but you have to do a few mods to an m98 to get acceptable results. The 8x68S was designed to fit the M98, with a few design choices that lend itself very well, and according to the gunsmith that did the work all those years ago (well regarded sydney gunsmith bill marden snr.) it's about as big as you can go without seriously weakening the critical parts, like the lower lug abutment, and the boltface doesn't need to be opened up too much. Magazine feed lips also should be adjusted.

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Re: Zg 47? [Re: GoneShootin]
      #159150 - 18/04/10 12:58 PM

Here is a ZG-47 in 8x64 with one of the mounts scope mounts made for that rifle. It is a great scope mount; however, you are limited to scopes that are completely round at the adjustment turrents like period scopes were......this is a Busnell 3200 which happens to be round at that point and does not have the enlarged center like a Leupold. Here in the USA these rifles are difficult to find and when you do they are typically in 30-06 (nothing wrong with that); I would love to have a 9.3!

John



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Homer
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Re: Zg 47? [Re: TexasJohn]
      #159165 - 18/04/10 10:07 PM

G'Day Fella's,

John you certainly have a Very Nice rifle there!
And going on the amount of blue on the bolt handle and the safety and the condition of the stock, it hasn't seen a lot of work!!!

The ZG-47, is truly a "Custom Made Factory Rifle"!

FYI,
If you wanted to fit a different scope (Leupold etc), you could get the bridge mount machined out (just a little), at the appropriate place to accept these other scopes.

Thank you for sharing the image with us!
I wish I could work out how to post images and I would track down the ones I have here, of the Mannlicher style ZG-47 (in 8x57).

HooRoo
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Re: Zg 47? [Re: Homer]
      #159167 - 18/04/10 11:28 PM

Nice rifle indeed, and it wouldnt be impossible to fit another set of rings to the base of the mount with higher feets.

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Re: Zg 47? [Re: 450_366]
      #159169 - 19/04/10 12:42 AM

I have a ZG 47 waiting for me in Germany at my gunsmith's shop.

One question I don't know the answer to is how the safety works. Is the lever pushed forward to release it, like the safety on the L46 Sako, or does pushing it forward engage it, like the safety on the ZKK series of BRNO rifles? I fervently hope it is the former.

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TexasJohn
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Re: Zg 47? [Re: xausa]
      #159173 - 19/04/10 01:09 AM

I fear I may have a bit of bad news on the safety. It works like the other older Brno rifles.....forward engages the safety and rotation to the rear is off safety. The rifle in the picture above is off safety. Hommer, there is a tutorial somewhere on posting pictures....it's really not that hard (if I can do it). I would love to see a mannlicher ZG-47 - I assume it is factory? I have never seen a factory ZG in that configuration. I have only seen two factory stock styles and both are half-stock.

John

Edited by TexasJohn (19/04/10 01:11 AM)

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Re: Zg 47? [Re: xausa]
      #159183 - 19/04/10 03:53 AM

Quote:

I have a ZG 47 waiting for me in Germany at my gunsmith's shop.

One question I don't know the answer to is how the safety works. Is the lever pushed forward to release it, like the safety on the L46 Sako, or does pushing it forward engage it, like the safety on the ZKK series of BRNO rifles? I fervently hope it is the former.



As said above, its the later, think of it as the hammer and hopefully you find it more easy.

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Homer
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Re: Zg 47? [Re: 450_366]
      #159285 - 21/04/10 08:05 PM

G'Day Fella's,

Texas John, about 12 or 13 years ago I was working in a local gun shop when the Mannlicher style ZG47 came in for temporary storage, while the new owner got there firearms license (the original owner went "Belly Up" and his wife, wanted to keep the rifle! Smart lady!!!).

The rifle was in Excellent Condition and had little use.

If a firearm came into the shop that I wanted, I used to work for ? amount of days for Free, depending on what the owner and I worked out between us, to pay for it!

I really would have liked this and the owner tried to purchase the rifle off the Lady owner but no luck there!

So prior to preparing the rifle for storage, I took 5 or 6 photo's.

I will try to work out how to get Photo Bucket up and running and post these images!

HooRoo
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westex
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Re: Zg 47? [Re: 450_366]
      #160861 - 22/05/10 10:26 PM

I have followed this discussion with some interest, I am familiar with the ZG-47's and have owned them along with most everything Brno/CZ has produced....I have read various accounts of actions sold in small numbers to foreign makers ie. Parker-Hale,300 or less, Heym ...about the same number, and a small number to WF Frankonia.... I have seen the PH Hussars before (.243 strange as it seems) and a Heym manufactured rifle,caliber eludes me now,as it was some time ago..
I just bought,and will take delivery of next week,a PH Hussar in Cal. .308 Norma Mag, My reasoning is that this would be the only rendering of this action in a magnum chambering,I assume magazine and rails were modified as well as the bolt face of course. Anyone with experience on these guns?? Some mention in print has been made that of the 300 +or- PH's fewer than 50 were chambered in .308 Norma. Anyone with more informed insight into PH production records... ? Have not really got a project in mind for this,but lots of possibilities come to mind.
Thanks for any input...

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