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AspenHill
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Re: What's Your Safari Plans for 2009 [Re: Ripp]
#123644 - 11/01/09 12:46 AM

Jan Oelofse has been around a long, long time. I don't think he PH's anymore, he's older, but he has an excellent reputation. I believe he was a stunt double for John Wayne in Hatari! I own that DVD and love it.

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Re: What's Your Safari Plans for 2009 [Re: AspenHill]
#123652 - 11/01/09 02:50 AM

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Jan Oelofse has been around a long, long time. I don't think he PH's anymore, he's older, but he has an excellent reputation. I believe he was a stunt double for John Wayne in Hatari! I own that DVD and love it.

Since this is my first safari, I hope my experience with them is a very good one. I spent many hours and months researching different companies and the information is overwhelming. It comes down to common sense, favorable opinions of others with first hand experience, and very clear goals of what is to be expected from the safari experience. The personal factor also comes into play in one's experience and impressions when dealing and communicating with the company.

I would love to add Cape Buffalo to my hunt, but I'm budgeting $15,000 for the hunt. I'm sure this is a paltry sum compared to what most here spend on their safaris but, for good or bad, that's what I'm budgeting.

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Ripp
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Re: What's Your Safari Plans for 2009 [Re: Der_Jaeger]
#123667 - 11/01/09 05:28 AM

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I would love to add Cape Buffalo to my hunt, but I'm budgeting $15,000 for the hunt. I'm sure this is a paltry sum compared to what most here spend on their safaris but, for good or bad, that's what I'm budgeting.

I would think for 15k --based on the animals you are after---that would be more than adequate..based on my experiece...but, things change...

Don't sell yourself short--the last I checked...15k was still 15k...and still a substantial sum of money...the really expensive part is trip 2, 3, 4, 5, 6......

Ripp

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Re: What's Your Safari Plans for 2009 [Re: Ripp]
#123670 - 11/01/09 05:37 AM

Ripp,

It's enough to imagine the first trip coming to fruition, much less subsequent ones! Additional trips will be icing on the cake and I will feel fully accomplished and satiated having experienced at least one safari on the Dark Continent. Not going would be the one thing I would look back on in later years with some regret.

"Here in the domain of the untamed, beats the unrelenting rhythm of the wild. Beneath moonlit dawn and sunlit dusk, through sudden cloudburst and fiery sky, beyond the path of the last hundred years, so far from comfort and so close to conquest. Where instinct and mastery bind animal and man in the sweet sweat of pursuit, passion, and fair chase. Invisible to all but hunter and game – and, now, you, under Wild Skies".

Don't you just love that quote from the introduction of the "Under Wild Skies" program hosted by Tony Makris?

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Re: What's Your Safari Plans for 2009 [Re: Der_Jaeger]
#123685 - 11/01/09 07:23 AM

Der,

You will never regret spending one cent of that 15K. Go for it.

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Re: What's Your Safari Plans for 2009 [Re: Der_Jaeger]
#123727 - 11/01/09 03:53 PM

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Jan Oelofse has been around a long, long time. I don't think he PH's anymore, he's older, but he has an excellent reputation. I believe he was a stunt double for John Wayne in Hatari! I own that DVD and love it.

Since this is my first safari, I hope my experience with them is a very good one. I spent many hours and months researching different companies and the information is overwhelming. It comes down to common sense, favorable opinions of others with first hand experience, and very clear goals of what is to be expected from the safari experience. The personal factor also comes into play in one's experience and impressions when dealing and communicating with the company.

I would love to add Cape Buffalo to my hunt, but I'm budgeting $15,000 for the hunt. I'm sure this is a paltry sum compared to what most here spend on their safaris but, for good or bad, that's what I'm budgeting.

Good luck on your safari. Don't worry about cape buffalo. Keep that one for the next safari if the hook bites deep.

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Der_Jaeger
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Re: What's Your Safari Plans for 2009 [Re: NitroX]
#123743 - 11/01/09 10:01 PM

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Good luck on your safari. Don't worry about cape buffalo. Keep that one for the next safari if the hook bites deep.

Thank you! The irony is that the Cape Buffalo is the very animal that set it's hook into me many years ago and is the very animal that has finally drawn me to this point and, as it may turn out, is the very animal that will elude the plans of the hunter who seeks him. I will be absolutely overwhelmed by a plains game hunt in Namibia if things continue as planned.

Doesn't that just reek of Moby Dick???!!! Or maybe The White Buffalo with Charles Bronson

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Re: What's Your Safari Plans for 2009 [Re: Der_Jaeger]
#123745 - 11/01/09 10:11 PM

Der Jaeger,

Dont let it worry you. Once you've been on one African hunt, you'll always want another one, so you can make Buff your priority on the next hunt.

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Der_Jaeger
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Re: What's Your Safari Plans for 2009 [Re: shakari]
#123751 - 11/01/09 11:45 PM

Shakari,

Yes, I am fearful that you are absolutely right

Anyway, I don't want to jinx myself by talking too much of a trip that has yet to happen. Things are progressing very smoothly and on target.

Regards,

Jerry

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Ripp
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Re: What's Your Safari Plans for 2009 [Re: Der_Jaeger]
#123763 - 12/01/09 02:28 AM

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Ripp,

Don't you just love that quote from the introduction of the "Under Wild Skies" program hosted by Tony Makris?

Agree..

...I watch it all the time...but as of late---don't see it aired --not sure if its gone for a bit or forever--used to record it at 5:30 Sunday morning's on ESPN 2...

As to your trip to Africa for plains game...you WILL love it...BUT,,,,you will long to go back...you are following exactely what happened to me...and I always thought if I could just go once,,that would be enough...and if, due to unforseen circumstances, I would never have returned..we at least I had done it once..but, have now been on 4 and currently planning for #5..

With the state of the world economy however,,,might hold off a year or so to see how it all shakes out...did get a flyer from one of my booking agent friends who has a PH that averaged 55# elephant in '08 that is offering a bull ele for a very competitive price...will visit with him more...

Good Luck...

Ripp

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Re: What's Your Safari Plans for 2009 [Re: Ripp]
#123773 - 12/01/09 02:59 AM

Ripp, feel free to send me a PM for any recommendations you have regarding safari outfitters, PH's, etc. Again, I'm basing everything I'm doing on my own research and the first hand experiences of others.

Regarding Under Wild Skies, for some reson it hasn't aired over the last 3 weeks and I'm getting sick and tired of watching the same reruns of Getting Wild with Cindy Garrison eating toads in Thailand!!

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Re: What's Your Safari Plans for 2009 [Re: Paul]
#123806 - 12/01/09 11:34 AM

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Thanks Guys, this thread is very enlightnening. Any opinions of the Kukuzans, Behati or Hunter's Quest operations would be appreciated. Also, is the Caprivi Strip in Namibia a viable area for buffalo or is there a big chance your beast might escape into another country?
Keep 'em coming.
- Paul

I took a very nice old Bull in the Caprivi Strip with Outfitter - Vaughan Fulton's Classic Safaris www.fultonclassicsafaris.com . Don't be concerned about it escaping into another country-shoot straight, and make the first shot count. Also, your PH will be there to back you up, should an escape be possible.

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Re: What's Your Safari Plans for 2009 [Re: Der_Jaeger]
#123808 - 12/01/09 11:38 AM

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Has anybody ever hunted with jan Oelofse in Namibia? I've mentioned my booking a couple of times, but I havene't seen or heard any comments about the company. They seem to be very reputable. I got a nice recommendation letter sent to Jan Oelofse of my behalf from Joe Prather at Griffin & Howe, who has also hunted with them. Still, I would like to hear other's experiences, if any.

I've hunted with Jan's operation twice. Both times times I was guided by Steve Tors, and had a wonderful time on both hunts.

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Paul
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Re: What's Your Safari Plans for 2009 [Re: mikeh416Rigby]
#123842 - 12/01/09 07:41 PM

[quoteI took a very nice old Bull in the Caprivi Strip with Outfitter - Vaughan Fulton's Classic Safaris www.fultonclassicsafaris.com . Don't be concerned about it escaping into another country-shoot straight, and make the first shot count. Also, your PH will be there to back you up, should an escape be possible.

Thanks Mike,
What is the feeling about hunting lionesses? Is there a time of year when dependent cubs are less likely to orphaned?
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Der_Jaeger
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Re: What's Your Safari Plans for 2009 [Re: mikeh416Rigby]
#123853 - 12/01/09 10:28 PM

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Has anybody ever hunted with jan Oelofse in Namibia? I've mentioned my booking a couple of times, but I havene't seen or heard any comments about the company. They seem to be very reputable. I got a nice recommendation letter sent to Jan Oelofse of my behalf from Joe Prather at Griffin & Howe, who has also hunted with them. Still, I would like to hear other's experiences, if any.

I've hunted with Jan's operation twice. Both times times I was guided by Steve Tors, and had a wonderful time on both hunts.

Awesome! Thank you! I would love to hear more about the hunt, condidtions, game, etc... When was your last hunt with them?

By the way, where is the Oley Valley in Pennsylvania?

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Re: What's Your Safari Plans for 2009 [Re: Ripp]
#123912 - 13/01/09 08:47 AM

Leaving SLC on August 14 and will be in Namibia by the 16th to begin a 16 day hunt in the Caprivi for buffalo and elephant. Looking forward to being in my dreams awake. Hopefully there will be a lion available when I hunt. Would be something to get three of the big five in 16 days. Some of the best minds are working on our economy so hopefully Tanzania in another year or two hunting buffalo on the mountains with Rainer josch. Maybe a chance at leopard, also.

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Ripp
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Re: What's Your Safari Plans for 2009 [Re: NitroX]
#123941 - 13/01/09 02:30 PM

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---they were running 90% plus on lion for something like the last 3 or 4 years...they did not have a 21 day minimum at that time..

Isn't the percentage the outfitters usually quote, the percentage of the quota they fill? ie an outfitter which says they have a 100% success rate translates as 100% of the quota filled? ie if their quota is 5 lions, they get 5 lions, irrespective of whether they have 5 clients or 15 clients?

John,

Agree that some less trustworthy would do that...however the firm I was with and hunted with..IMHO, would not do that..nor quote that...

However, one of their PH's will be staying with my for a few day in 2 weeks,,Ian Gibson..I will ask him and advise...

Know what you are saying, as I got totally screwed on my first trip to Africa...Now I check, recheck and check again...

Ripp

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Re: What's Your Safari Plans for 2009 [Re: Ripp]
#123943 - 13/01/09 03:27 PM

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John,

However, one of their PH's will be staying with my for a few day in 2 weeks,,Ian Gibson..I will ask him and advise...

Ripp

Please ask Ian for me whether or not there has been any more meteors crashing into the hills of late?

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Ripp
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Re: What's Your Safari Plans for 2009 [Re: ozhunter]
#123967 - 14/01/09 12:03 AM

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John,

However, one of their PH's will be staying with my for a few day in 2 weeks,,Ian Gibson..I will ask him and advise...

Ripp

Please ask Ian for me whether or not there has been any more meteors crashing into the hills of late?

I will--talked to him yesterday--he is currently in Dallas--

He asked if I had my "drinking shoes on??" whatever that means...

Ripp

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Re: What's Your Safari Plans for 2009 [Re: 500grains]
#124563 - 20/01/09 06:05 AM

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No safari plans for me. We are not spending money due to the economic downturn and our new Marxist president who may ruin us all.

That's exactly why I'm spending my money now; why preserve your capital for the Marxists? My philosophy is that I want to be the one who spends my money, not someone else.

So I'll be hunting PAC elephant with Charlton McCallum Safaris in April.

As long as most of my money goes for liquor, women, cars, guns, & hunting, that's money well spent. The only money I'll consider wasted is whatever stuff is left for Obama & the rest of the Chicago mob to seize from my newly nationalized bank accounts.

We both might wind up living under the same bridge, but I'll be the guy who hunted elephants in 2009.

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Re: What's Your Safari Plans for 2009 [Re: peter]
#124613 - 20/01/09 04:23 PM

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south africa in aug. and hopefully zim as well. we will see.

hopefully a black bear hunt or 2 in the us

good hunting all

peter

Peter, are you coming to Africa again ? But you have only spent like 6 days here how could that have triggered the diea to come again. Is Africa hunting addictive or what ?

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Re: What's Your Safari Plans for 2009 [Re: SafariHunt]
#124627 - 20/01/09 06:55 PM

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south africa in aug. and hopefully zim as well. we will see.

hopefully a black bear hunt or 2 in the us

good hunting all

peter

Peter, are you coming to Africa again ? But you have only spent like 6 days here how could that have triggered the diea to come again. Is Africa hunting addictive or what ?

you know, im coming back, and you have better line them pigs up again, so i can have another go at them.
and yes it is very addictive, i think that the wildebeest and kudu and gemsbuck would be the target for our outings this time, and a caracal for the fun of it.

cheers

peter

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Re: What's Your Safari Plans for 2009 [Re: peter]
#124705 - 21/01/09 11:10 AM

Well, not exactly my safari plans, but funny things happen around the campfire. My father went to S Africa with me for my safari in August 08… After a hard day of hunting my father and the owner of the outfit star chatting it up about how my father was a construction worker in a past life… long story short, My father is going to work for him for the month of March as a handy man, in exchange for room and board. I joke about how going there to work and not hunt and it is like going to the bar without ordering a drink. Needless to say I’d love to be in his shoes. Just goes to show you that even in a bad economy a month in Africa can be done.

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Ripp
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Re: What's Your Safari Plans for 2009 [Re: Der_Jaeger]
#124711 - 21/01/09 01:11 PM

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Ripp, feel free to send me a PM for any recommendations you have regarding safari outfitters, PH's, etc. Again, I'm basing everything I'm doing on my own research and the first hand experiences of others.

Regarding Under Wild Skies, for some reson it hasn't aired over the last 3 weeks and I'm getting sick and tired of watching the same reruns of Getting Wild with Cindy Garrison eating toads in Thailand!!

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Get tired of the same show but really don't get too tired watching her..as long as she doesn't talk or laugh..

As to outfitters etc..will PM you...

Thx

Ripp

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Re: What's Your Safari Plans for 2009 [Re: Ripp]
#124721 - 21/01/09 03:31 PM

This year going to try my luck again in tz to see if I can get my big black maned lion

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