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ovny
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375 H&H Magnum for hunt great bears. Recommended?
      #122166 - 24/12/08 08:28 PM

I give you leave a link where I read a comment on the 375 H & H Magnum in which put that the Britishcartridge is not suitable for hunt big bears in the United States. what do you think about?

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http://www.ammo-one.com/375HH.html

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Re: 375 H&H Magnum for hunt great bears. Recommended? [Re: ovny]
      #122169 - 24/12/08 09:15 PM


I guess if the hunter is trying to kill bears at 500 yards, then probably not. Any hunter who says a .375H&H is not an adequate caliber for our largest bears is more at fault as a shooter than the cartridge is at being capable.

A .375H&H shooting 300 grain Barnes or Nosler Partitions is Bad Medicine for any of our bears.

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Re: 375 H&H Magnum for hunt great bears. Recommended? [Re: Der_Jaeger]
      #122170 - 24/12/08 09:36 PM

I think that, because the proper distance, with the tip properly and putting the shot, if the 375 H & M is able to bring down buffalo, elephants and hippos also be able to bring down bears with ownership.

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Re: 375 H&H Magnum for hunt great bears. Recommended? [Re: ovny]
      #122193 - 25/12/08 12:23 AM

The .338 Win Mag is a GREAT grizzly ctg. - the .375 H&H in my humble opinion is even better. Anything larger is just something to cause flinching and poor hits. Many people have trouble shooting anything larger than a .338 or .375 - some even have trouble with them. NEVER over-gun yourself. A pefect hit with a premium bullet from a .300 is preferred to a poor hit with anything larger.

I personally like .458 calibres - .45/70 or .450 Marlin lever gun is among the best for fist-fighting ranges. Big bears - again, in my opinion, should never to attempted beyond about 100 yards - 50 yards is even better. Getting on their terms, face to face makes the hunt worth while. Trying to snipe a bear at 200 or 250 yards to prove you're a man because you're afraid of them will only result in a poor hit and a stern & perhaps dangerous chase for the guide. I won't allow it.

Hit them properly with a 286 Speer or 270gr. to 300gr. Nosler or TSX at 50 to 100 yards and the hunt is over.

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Re: 375 H&H Magnum for hunt great bears. Recommended? [Re: ovny]
      #122202 - 25/12/08 01:08 AM

Comments Anno 1912!!! The end of the blackpowder era!

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Re: 375 H&H Magnum for hunt great bears. Recommended? [Re: grandveneur]
      #122203 - 25/12/08 01:14 AM

Whoever says that, IMHO, really doesn't know what they are saying..proof is below--taken a few years back on the AP in Alaska..compliments of a .375 H&H ..the .375 H&H is awesome for the "big" bears..

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Re: 375 H&H Magnum for hunt great bears. Recommended? [Re: Ripp]
      #122204 - 25/12/08 01:17 AM

I think so! We shot in Siberia and Kamchatka a lot of big bears with 9,3x64 without problems!

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Re: 375 H&H Magnum for hunt great bears. Recommended? [Re: grandveneur]
      #122213 - 25/12/08 02:00 AM


Ripp, are you sure those little .375's penetrated the hide?? I'm sure you had to empty the magazine on him! Haha

Great shooting and what a great looking bear. I might even be tempted to grab the .416 out of the rack but, the .375 is more than plenty....especially if the bear has thoughts other than passing into the netherworld peacefully.

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Re: 375 H&H Magnum for hunt great bears. Recommended? [Re: Der_Jaeger]
      #122215 - 25/12/08 02:10 AM

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Ripp, are you sure those little .375's penetrated the hide?? I'm sure you had to empty the magazine on him! Haha

Great shooting and what a great looking bear. I might even be tempted to grab the .416 out of the rack but, the .375 is more than plenty....especially if the bear has thoughts other than passing into the netherworld peacefully.




Your a funny one...

Just to set the record straight, I have NO problem with a .375 or any of its offspring..I just like the .416 more on dangerous game..BUT, to answer your question--2 shots...

Take care

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Re: 375 H&H Magnum for hunt great bears. Recommended? [Re: Ripp]
      #122219 - 25/12/08 02:14 AM



Two shots is pretty good and the least amount that a careful hunter would place into animal that looks to the hunter as food. My Mauser M03 in .375H&H will always have a permanent spot in my armament

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Re: 375 H&H Magnum for hunt great bears. Recommended? [Re: Der_Jaeger]
      #122221 - 25/12/08 02:38 AM

RIPP:

Great bear and congrats!!!

That advertisement is stupid.

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Re: 375 H&H Magnum for hunt great bears. Recommended? [Re: 9.3x57]
      #122229 - 25/12/08 03:42 AM

I seemed to me, I have considered stupid, but I always trust your experience and vustras answers.

Excellent bears Ripp.

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Re: 375 H&H Magnum for hunt great bears. Recommended? [Re: Der_Jaeger]
      #122282 - 26/12/08 02:18 AM

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Two shots is pretty good and the least amount that a careful hunter would place into animal that looks to the hunter as food. My Mauser M03 in .375H&H will always have a permanent spot in my armament




The 375 H&H is a great caliber and as I stated is awesome for, IMHO, for bears or any hunting in AK..as you never know what you'll come across such as moose, caribou, or whatever...own 2 myself..and will probably own 3 as I plan to build one in the 375 Ruger for my son...but with Ruger/Hornady coming out with the .416 Ruger as well, will probably get one of those as well..

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Re: 375 H&H Magnum for hunt great bears. Recommended? [Re: Ripp]
      #122294 - 26/12/08 05:00 AM

Lets not forget that MANY HUGE beasts have been successfully taken with the 375, it's all about bullet placement though.

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Re: 375 H&H Magnum for hunt great bears. Recommended? [Re: ]
      #122295 - 26/12/08 05:18 AM

Thanks for your answers, based on experience, surely that page was wrong to carry out its assessment of the venerable British cartridge.

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Re: 375 H&H Magnum for hunt great bears. Recommended? [Re: ovny]
      #122302 - 26/12/08 06:53 AM

The 375 H&H is the....THE.... world cartridge, par excelence. Agreed on all the replies to this thread.


Just sold my Caprivi for finacial reasons and am already dreaming of its replacement.....Dakota ???....Mauser 03 ???....Empire ???.....built one ?????

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Re: 375 H&H Magnum for hunt great bears. Recommended? [Re: Caprivi]
      #122307 - 26/12/08 07:54 AM

That is why you have a friend, but it seems that people are not well considered. Of course I am aware that the 375 H & M is not the most suitable for as large, at least in complicated situations, but in normal situations and the shooter doing his part (to place the draft) has fulfilled to perfection.

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Re: 375 H&H Magnum for hunt great bears. Recommended? [Re: Caprivi]
      #122331 - 26/12/08 01:10 PM

Quote:

The 375 H&H is the....THE.... world cartridge, par excelence. Agreed on all the replies to this thread.


Just sold my Caprivi for finacial reasons and am already dreaming of its replacement.....Dakota ???....Mauser 03 ???....Empire ???.....built one ?????




How did you like your Caprivi?/ I have read nothing but good about them BUT as you owned one, curioius on your thoughts..

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Re: 375 H&H Magnum for hunt great bears. Recommended? [Re: Ripp]
      #122352 - 26/12/08 08:00 PM

They have removed the statement said that the 375-caliber H & H Magnum was not appropriate to abate bears great. I am settled the issue, so if you think it appropriate moderator can close the thread.

Thanks to everyone,

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Re: 375 H&H Magnum for hunt great bears. Recommended? [Re: ovny]
      #122390 - 27/12/08 10:30 AM

Somebody email them or do they read NE.com?

No need to close the thread.

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Re: 375 H&H Magnum for hunt great bears. Recommended? [Re: mickey]
      #122394 - 27/12/08 10:53 AM

I said if she was bothered page, I have not sent any email to that page, perhaps they read this thread and reconsider. They saw his mistake and corrected it in writing. I leave you to your discretion, sir moderator whether or not to close the thread.

A greeting and thanks,

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Re: 375 H&H Magnum for hunt great bears. Recommended? [Re: Ripp]
      #122399 - 27/12/08 11:37 AM

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How did you like your Caprivi?/ I have read nothing but good about them BUT as you owned one, curioius on your thoughts..
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Hey Ripp,

I needed some funds for some other gun projects, with it being the "Least" important in the battery it got sacrificed. I liked it alot. Probably the nicest 375 I have owned. Problem is I have had use of a 1990's built WR and a Dakota 76, years back, and they have really swayed my thinking.

All that said I still want a Dakota. I bought this Kimber as a affordable alternative and that it is.....but in the end it was not the "feel" I really wanted. I finally had a chance to handle a Dakota 76 and a Caprivi together, over Memorial day at Cabel'as in Rapid, and from that day on I knew the Caprivi would/could be a short timer.



Will I have to change my username to Dakota????????????

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Re: 375 H&H Magnum for hunt great bears. Recommended? [Re: Caprivi]
      #122464 - 28/12/08 07:15 AM

Quote:

Quote:


How did you like your Caprivi?/ I have read nothing but good about them BUT as you owned one, curioius on your thoughts..
thx
Ripp




Hey Ripp,

I needed some funds for some other gun projects, with it being the "Least" important in the battery it got sacrificed. I liked it alot. Probably the nicest 375 I have owned. Problem is I have had use of a 1990's built WR and a Dakota 76, years back, and they have really swayed my thinking.

All that said I still want a Dakota. I bought this Kimber as a affordable alternative and that it is.....but in the end it was not the "feel" I really wanted. I finally had a chance to handle a Dakota 76 and a Caprivi together, over Memorial day at Cabel'as in Rapid, and from that day on I knew the Caprivi would/could be a short timer.

Will I have to change my username to Dakota????????????




That was my feeling as well when I looked at them at SCI last year..pretty nice gun..but the old Dakota's have that 'certain" feel to them for sure...felt the Kimber was a bit bulky in the front end of the stock for my taste--actually I like the twin synthetic model a bit better plus it would be a great gun for Alaska as well

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Re: 375 H&H Magnum for hunt great bears. Recommended? [Re: Ripp]
      #122472 - 28/12/08 08:46 AM

Dakota, a good rifle, but very expensive. I always watching my economy. That penalty being poor.

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