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JPK
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Photos of My Zim Elephant Hunt
      #119047 - 18/11/08 06:38 AM

Photos from my hunt:

Tuskless taken at 7:00am Day One, in Chewore South. Notice the rafters? I was able to wear them on the flat sections of Chewore South and they are very comfortable, quiet and much cooler than boots in the heat. Couldn't wear them in the rolling hills or anywhere in Makuti though, I need boots for ankle support in the rougher terrain.



My Chewore Bull. Guess the weight of the tusks on this bull and the Makuti bull. I'll provide actual weights in a couple of days.



Another photo of the same bull taken just after I killed him. Notice how far his head sagged by the next morning when we went to do recovery, and when the previous photo was taken?



A grysbok, with 2" horns, which apparently are a truly excellent set of trophy horns.



A kudu bull, taken for leopard bait. 48" horns, nothing special, but nice looking horns for my eight year old son's room.



Fist Makuti tuskless. We spotted her up on the ridge in the background, well to the right of the photo's border. I brought a Ziess 20x60x85mm spotting scope and it proved an excellent tool, saving both time and shoe leather as well as my ankles, knees and butt in the rough terrain. It was knick-named "The Limb Saver" after a day or two of use. Rich Tabor could judge ivory, or the lack of it, from many miles. There were two tuskless in this herd, a half grown and this one, and we knew that before walking for them. The walk took almost an hour.



A Makuti tusked cow. I brained her with a frontal because she was injured. There's a story to how she was injured I hear. Killed the same day as the first Makuti tuskless shown in the previous photo, but late in the evening. This photo was taken the next morning when we went to recover. We killed three elephants that day. Long, long day! But the next day spent recovering was even longer. One recovery a year is fun, but after that they begin to get tediuos. We had so many elephants to recover that ALL of us pitched in with Chris and I handing much of the skinning on this cow.



My second Makuti tuskless, also taken on the same day as the first tuskless and the injured tusked cow. Shown in the photo are trackers Oria (sitting) and Tiengwa and stalwart camera man and videographer Chris Estephoizen, a Bulawayo native.



The Makuti Bull. In the photo is PH Rich Tabor, still wearing rafters despite the terrain! Guess this fellow's ivory as well.



The Limb Saver in action, well worth the trouble of bringing it! Here Rich is watching the first tuskless we took in Makuti to make sure it has no hard to see small tusk to frustrate us after the walk. I'm doing the same in the second photo. Depending on the terrain, one of the trackers would carry the spotting scope with either the whole tripod or the mono pod the tripod came with. It proved well worth the trouble.




I have a bunch more photo to load. I'll post more if warranted. BTW, some or all of my hunt should show up on Steve Scott's show on Versus TV in six months or a year. When I hear dates, Ill pass them along.

JPK


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Re: Photos of My Zim Elephant Hunt [Re: JPK]
      #119057 - 18/11/08 07:21 AM

JPK
Great pictures from a your safari, nice "bag".
Thanks for sharing.

Cheers,

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Re: Photos of My Zim Elephant Hunt [Re: JPK]
      #119060 - 18/11/08 09:19 AM

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I have a bunch more photo to load. I'll post more if warranted.




It's warranted!

As always JPK, you've had an amazing elephant hunt. And as always, your pictures and reports make me yearn to return to Zim asap!


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Re: Photos of My Zim Elephant Hunt [Re: EricD]
      #119071 - 18/11/08 12:39 PM

Awespme hunt! Thats a nice tusker too. You arent helping my worsening case of elephant fever. I hope I can get Magara to put me on one someday. I'm glad you got to go John. Hope all is well with you.

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Re: Photos of My Zim Elephant Hunt [Re: bigmaxx]
      #119073 - 18/11/08 01:14 PM

Thanks, you all. I'll try to get more photos up soon.

Jeffery, remember, all of these elephants were taken with a 458wm double rifle, which doesn't a) provide enough power or velocity or ? and b) work as a double cartridge because of the belted rimless design according to the "experts", but no use asking these elephants or the ones who have died at the end of my rifle's barrels, they can't speak!

JPK


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Re: Photos of My Zim Elephant Hunt [Re: JPK]
      #119088 - 18/11/08 04:54 PM

Good job and excellent adventure.
Damn does the 458 wm actually work. I suppose that is why we just bought one.

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Re: Photos of My Zim Elephant Hunt [Re: SafariHunt]
      #119089 - 18/11/08 06:25 PM

So what bullets did you use?
I'm thinking 480grn bullets would be great from a 458win.
How does the double shoot with different weights?
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Re: Photos of My Zim Elephant Hunt [Re: JPK]
      #119105 - 19/11/08 12:48 AM

Quote:

Thanks, you all. I'll try to get more photos up soon.

Jeffery, remember, all of these elephants were taken with a 458wm double rifle, which doesn't a) provide enough power or velocity or ? and b) work as a double cartridge because of the belted rimless design according to the "experts", but no use asking these elephants or the ones who have died at the end of my rifle's barrels, they can't speak!

JPK





JPK

Congratulations on an awesome hunt..looks like a great adventure....

Laughed when I read your comments of the "experts" take on the terrible "belted" cartidges...it wasn't that long ago when the belt was all the rage...now, its the beltless...tomorrow it will be something else...they need to sell more "stuff" ..so the great items of yesterday no longer function with the addition of the latest and greatest...

Again, great hunt, hope all is well ...

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Re: Photos of My Zim Elephant Hunt [Re: ozhunter]
      #119112 - 19/11/08 03:08 AM

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So what bullets did you use?
I'm thinking 480grn bullets would be great from a 458win.
How does the double shoot with different weights?
Regards,
Adam




OzHunter,

The 480gr Woodleighs have the cannelure in the wrong place for the 458wm (but the right place for the 450NE's) and there is substantially less powder room using the 480gr than the 500gr (though I have recently heard that you can special order the 480gr with the cannelure placed further rearward for the 458wm.) I tried loading the 480's and noticed no benefit compared to the 500's, though with a properly placed cannelure, this might change.

I get 2145fps with the 500's so nothing is wanting from my rifle regarding performance with the 500's.

This trip I relied on the Woodleigh 500's for the first shot and North Fork 450's for the second shot.

I had an incident in May in which a North Fork may have failed to penetrate a bull's zygomatic arch, just under the earhole, on a side brain shot and instead veered almost 90* and ended up in the neck. As a result I am relying on the tried and true performance of the 500gr Woodleighs at 2145fps for the first shot.

My thinking is that the first shot is going to be a brain shot, or at least an attempted brain shot, and while sufficient penetration is certainly required, the 500gr Woodleighs at 2145fps give plenty, and in my experience, can be relied on to break bone and travel straight for as far as required for any brain shot. For a second shot, which might require as much penetration as can be mustered in the event of a failed brain shot, I'm relying on the significantly greater penetration of the 450gr flat nose North Forks, which definitely travel straight in the body. But the 500's penetrate well on body shots too, just not as far as the North Forks.

Each bullet shoots well in my rifle, and to the same POI, with the North Forks shooting more accurately, but the 1" groups at 50yds that I have gotten with the North Forks aren't significantly better than what the Woodleighs produce, for the purpose. (BTW, since North Fork changed their bullet a couple of years ago, I haven't found the magic load that gets me 1" groups like the old style, yet.)

JPK


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Re: Photos of My Zim Elephant Hunt [Re: JPK]
      #119127 - 19/11/08 07:42 AM

John, that was a fantastic hunt! I like those hot weather elephant stalks.

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Re: Photos of My Zim Elephant Hunt [Re: 500grains]
      #119195 - 20/11/08 01:22 AM

Not bad for a South paw

In fact a fantastic safari a real good shooting.
I am supposed to go ele hunting in a couple of months in Zim but I am afraid that they are now scarce.
congratulations.

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Re: Photos of My Zim Elephant Hunt [Re: larcher]
      #120591 - 08/12/08 04:56 AM

Thanks for the photos, I am transported to those wild places.

A greeting,

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Re: Photos of My Zim Elephant Hunt [Re: JPK]
      #120603 - 08/12/08 07:05 AM

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I had an incident in May in which a North Fork may have failed to penetrate a bull's zygomatic arch, just under the earhole, on a side brain shot and instead veered almost 90* and ended up in the neck. As a result I am relying on the tried and true performance of the 500gr Woodleighs at 2145fps for the first shot.



JPK, I'd be interested to hear more about this experience.

Has anyone else had similar experienced wih the 450s?


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Re: Photos of My Zim Elephant Hunt [Re: JabaliHunter]
      #120607 - 08/12/08 07:38 AM

Hello JPK,

Awesome story, I am envious. I am new to the forum, and with fear of repitition could you enlighten me on your rifles and who and how your hunt was outfitted. Are you a PH ??? Certainly enjoyed reading about this mini-cull. Just wonderful.

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Re: Photos of My Zim Elephant Hunt [Re: JabaliHunter]
      #120638 - 08/12/08 01:20 PM

Quote:

Quote:

I had an incident in May in which a North Fork may have failed to penetrate a bull's zygomatic arch, just under the earhole, on a side brain shot and instead veered almost 90* and ended up in the neck. As a result I am relying on the tried and true performance of the 500gr Woodleighs at 2145fps for the first shot.



JPK, I'd be interested to hear more about this experience.

Has anyone else had similar experienced wih the 450s?




JabiliHunter,

I was hunting in Nyakasanga in May and attemped a side brain shot on a bull ele. The bull wasn't all that far into Nyakasanga, close by the Rickomitche (sp?) Photo Safari Conccession boundary. I tried to place my shot just below the bull's left earhole as he faced to our left, just below the ear hole to make up for the eles hieght. At the shot the bull spun toward us. I put my second shot through his trunk and into his chest. This didn't prevent him from completing his spin and heading for the border. PH Richard Tabor fired his 470 twice, shooting for the heart/lung. Appy PH Winston (can't for the life of me recall his last name at the moment) also fired his 458wm as I reloaded and fired one more. Just as was pulling the trigger on my second barrel the second time, Winston, with his second shot, spined the bull and he dropped. He was dead when we approached, as he should be with four big bore slugs in his heart and lungs and spined as well! I put an insurance shot into his earhole, which Rich Tabor religiously insist on.

We found what should have been the entry hole for my first shot and it was just where it was intended to be, just below the ear hole. Rich thought is was well placed to have brained the ele, but it obviously hadn't. Placed where it was, if it had been a tick too low, it should have gotten the spine/skull junction and still have dropped the bull.

The next day we went for recovery and told the head skinner what had happened. He went looking for the bullet and showed us where it seemed to have hit and turned on the zygomatic arch under the ear hole, where the arch flattens out. There was a bit of a nick on the arch, but not much, and then what seemed to be a blood shot trail into the neck. It was the last day of the safari, so, though I am an enthusiastic bullet digger and pay a $20/bullet bounty for recovered bullets, we were very short on time and didn't put in the time to really check to see if this is what really happened. Also, it is possible that the hole the skinner found was the exit hole from the insurance shot I made into the earhole from the opposite side. In my experience digging bullets from elephants, I've found that if there is more than a brain shot and an insurance shot, it can get pretty difficult figguring out whose shot went where and sorting out the chain of events and the holes and bullet tracks.

In any event, I lost confidence in the North Forks for brain shots on bulls. I'll keep using them for second shots and will do some more testing on bull skulls to see if the problem, if it happened, ocurs again. This hunt we were short time too, so did no bullet testing on the dead eles.

JPK


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Re: Photos of My Zim Elephant Hunt [Re: Caprivi]
      #120642 - 08/12/08 02:54 PM

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Hello JPK,

Awesome story, I am envious. I am new to the forum, and with fear of repitition could you enlighten me on your rifles and who and how your hunt was outfitted. Are you a PH ??? Certainly enjoyed reading about this mini-cull. Just wonderful.




Caprivi,

Thanks. I am not a PH, just an elephant hunting adict, one of several on this forum, including 500 Grains, 450NE N02 and others. I think that I'm lucky not to have gone on my first safari and elephant hunt until I was married with children, well established in my proffesion and into my 40's. If I'd have tried it when I was too much younger, I might have become an elephant hunting bum, spending every dime and every moment chasing elephants.

My elephant hunting double rifle is a Marcel Thys sidelock in 458wm, made in roughly 1980. When I bought it it was like new, with no evidence of ever having been fired outside of regulation. I'm a lefty and the rifle was all right handed, but JJ Perrodeau, who was an apprentice to Marcel when my rifle was made, twisted the triggers for me to make them suitable for a lefty. I worked with a local gunsmith to remove the cheekpiece and then wood from the right side of the stock to build in cast on for a lefty. Griffin & Howe refinished the stock and replaced the lamb skin leather covered recoil pad with a pig skin cover pad.

Marcel Thys, now retired, was a master gun and rifle maker in Liege Belgium. He retired after a former employee rboke into his shop and stole or destroyed much of Marcel's work in progress, as I was told by folks at Griffin & Howe. Marcel didn't have adequate insurance to cover his loss. He made good on all of the deposits, etc, by finishing all outstanding orders, but it put a real hurt on him financially, again as I was told. He retired when he'd fulfilled his obligations, he continues to teach at the Liege gunmakers school, as he had in the past, but puts more time into it, or so I've been told.

My bolt rifle is a Dakota Arms from more than a decade ago, back when Don and Norma Allen owned Dakota, and is more of a custom rifle than what you could have gotten from Dakota in the last bunch of years since Don's passing. The rifle is extremely accurate and has been a flawless performer. It shoots the Federal standard velocity 300gr Trophy Bonded Bearclaw softs so well that I don't reload softs for this rifle. If three aren't touching at 100yds, its my shooting and not the rifle. I load 300gr Woodleigh solids for this rifle. The grysbok in the photos above was shot with one of the Woodleigh solids.

This trip came about because my May trip to Nyakasanga was a very difficult trip and not an all together roaring success. The ground cover was unussually and unexpectedly thick, causing very poor tracking condiditions and a very frustrating hunt, where we lost more bull tracks in a typical day's hunting than successfully tracked bulls during the whole hunt. And the bulls we did manage to successfully track all had big feet but small ivory.

In late August, I shot PH Rich Tabor an email and asked him if he had free time in September or October and could find some elephant quota. I asked him to concentrate on quota quantity instead of ivory quality expectations. He found three tuskless available in Chewore South and two tuskless and a bull in Makuti as well as a leopard quota there. Chewore South is held by Chifuti Safaris and Makuti by Charlton McCollum Safaris.

My 82yr old Dad had some health issues, but seemed to stabilize just before I was scheduled to leave and, after discussions with my brothers and sister, I left for the hunt. Unfortunately, I had been in camp for just an hour when I found out that my father had passed away. I was informed just three or four hours after he passed, which is a testiment to Chifuti Safaris, Charlton McCollum Safaris and Rich Tabor's wife Sara, since I warned them of the possibility and I left one of my brothers all three's contact info and I heard through all three within an hour of each other.

I immeadiately sought to return home, but managed a day's hunt while travel agent Kathi Klimes got all travel arrangements squared away. I had kept Kathy in the loop and she had had me send her hospital contact info, just in case, and she worked with SAA to rearrange my flights on an emergency basis. The hospital contact info was needed because of SAA's policy on emergencys. Hats off to Kathi for making everything go so smoothly.

Anyway, after the funeral and some business issues, I rescheduled the hunt. Kudos for Rich Tabor, Chifuti and Charlton McCollum again for working together to make the rescheduling work. Chifuti asked if I wanted to pass on one tuskless since they had a request for one, and I agreed. Then they let Rich know that a bull had become available because of a cancelation, and at Rich's suggestion, I grabbed the bull quota and let the two remaining tuskless go. When I left, I thought I had quota available for a bull in Chewore, two tuskless and a bull in Makuti as well as the leopard in Makuti. When I arrived I discovered that the two tuskless in Chewore were still available as well. So we were hunting for two tuskless and a bull in Cheowre South as well as in Makuti. But the deal we'd struck with Charlton McCollum was for no refund on unshot ele quota, in exchange for a late season discount. We ended up leaving a tuskless quota unfilled in Chewore because of time constraints and the concern regarding the time it would take to find three bulls in Makuti. Shouldn't have worried it turned out. Also, we found that that the other sfari company that shares the Makuti quota with Charlton McCollum had an additional bull quota, so we were hunting for two bulls in Makuti.

In Makuti we saw a heck of a nice bull in an area we were not permitted to hunt. Nice enough that we walked in from the road without rifles after spotting him. When we arrived back in camp, we were given the news that the region's cheif Game Warden had given Charlton McCollum permission to hunt for two bulls in the closed area, to make up for some serious burning that had denuded a large area of Makuti. If only we had know an hour earlier!!! Anyway, I ended up passing on another really nice bull in that area, against Rich's advice and to his chagrin. I had hopes of seeing the big guy again, and had permission for only one bull in the formerly closed area and didn't want to foreclose the possibility of finding him.

Not following Rich's advice was a mistake. The bull we shot there was was a nice bull and the third biggest we saw but nothing like the really nice bull and a pretty big step down from the second best. The one we took was a good bull for the area and the second or third biggest taken by Charlton McCollum in the area this year. A hunter named Christian, who was hunting with Charlton McCollum PH Alan Shearing ended up taking the second biggest bull we saw and when the heads of the two bulls were side by side in camp, my first thoughts were, "Hmmm, we've seen this bull before and his ivory sure looks bigger at two yards than twenty, Rich was right, and OOPS, I screwed up!" Christian's bull ended up being the biggest bull of the season from Makuti. That was the second time I have failed to follow Rich's advice regarding whether to take a particular animal and he was right both times and I screwed up both times. Should have learned from the first time, eh!

If you are looking to find the right company to book with, you will not go wrong with Charton McCollum Safaris. Buzz Charlton is a great guy to hunt with, and his partner Myles McCollum is a great guy as well and a fine PH, though I have not hunted with Myles personally. Chewore South is a fantastic area, and Chifuti runs a first rate program with nice camps and first rate service. But rather than hunt with one of their PH's you will do better to hunt with Rich Tabor, who apprentived with Roger Whittall Safaris who used to share the Chewore South concession with a couple of other partners, Makari Safaris and Western Safaris. Chifuti is in their first year there. Rich has spent years as first an Appy and then as a Ph hunting Cheowre South and his extensive experience there is a huge benefit. Plus Rich is a great guy to hunt with and has a lot of elephant experience, as do Buzz and Myles, who also used to apprentice with and then hunt for Roger Whittall Safaris.

Rich Tabor can be reached by email at: richt@zol.co.zw

Charlton McCollum can be reached through their web site: http://www.cmsafaris.com/

Chifuti's US agents can be reached through their website: http://www.chifutisafaris.com/

Rich is a straight shooter and so are Myles and Buzz, no problems at all on that front with these guys. Chifuti has an excellent reputation and though I haven't had any prior dealing with them they rate a A+ from me for this experience. Rich told me they are straight shooters as well and absolutely square on the money front, no question. And so my experience with them seemed to confirm. I met Andrew Dawson in Chewore, who along with Paul Smith, owns Chifuti and he seemed a first rate fellow.

Hope this helps. Happy to answer any additional questions and sorry I got long winded!

JPK

Edited by JPK (08/12/08 03:44 PM)


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Re: Photos of My Zim Elephant Hunt [Re: JPK]
      #120746 - 10/12/08 12:00 AM

Thanks JPK - a very surprising result, especially given the NF reputation for deep straight penetration. Quite possibly a one-off, but who can say? You have to shoot what gives you the most confidence.
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