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DR value?
      #118778 - 13/11/08 06:37 AM

Has anyone noticed a change in value on DR lately? At the last auction in sweden only 5 out of 16 was sold. Perhaps the hype that has been about doubles the last couple of years has come to an end, and as a result the prices will start dropping.

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Re: DR value? [Re: 450_366]
      #118784 - 13/11/08 08:07 AM



I think you have to look a bit further than just
"numbers sold" and look at what was on offer.

I have seen UK auction where not much sold but when you looked closely, the qaulity of what didn't sell showed why.


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Re: DR value? [Re: 500Nitro]
      #118806 - 13/11/08 07:08 PM

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I think you have to look a bit further than just
"numbers sold" and look at what was on offer.

I have seen UK auction where not much sold but when you looked closely, the qaulity of what didn't sell showed why.




Well past couple of years anything with two rifled barrels sold for stupid money in sweden, here are some rifles from the past auction. Didnt attend so cant judge the overall quality but some did look nice on photo at least.



DUBBELSTUDSARE, Engelsk, svs hammerless, fabrikat: Charles Lancaster, modell Body Action Hammerless Ejector High Velocity Rifle Grade B, kal. .280 Flanged Nitro Express, vapen

Start bid 5000 euro, unsold



DUBBELSTUDSARE, Engelsk, fabrikat: Joseph Lang & Son?, kal. 9,3x74R - omborrad .360 Nitro Express

start bid 5000 euro, unsold




DUBBELSTUDSARE, Tysk, svs med hanar, fabrikat: Sauer&Sohn, modell 33, kal. .450 BP

start bid 1800 euro, unsold. why the h.ll didnt i attend the auction.



DUBBELSTUDSARE, Österrikisk, bockhammerless, fabrikat: Franz Sodia, modell Lyx, kal. 7x65R

start bid 2000 euro, unsold



DUBBELSTUDSARE, Österrikisk, bockhammerless, fabrikat: Franz Sodia, modell 560 Holland & Holland Ejektor, kal. 9,3x74R samt pipset kaliber 12-70,

start bid 4500 euro, unsold

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Re: DR value? [Re: 450_366]
      #118811 - 13/11/08 08:52 PM

Those 'start bids' look well under reserve to me...

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Re: DR value? [Re: 450_366]
      #118832 - 14/11/08 06:00 AM

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Has anyone noticed a change in value on DR lately? At the last auction in sweden only 5 out of 16 was sold. Perhaps the hype that has been about doubles the last couple of years has come to an end, and as a result the prices will start dropping.




Just speaking from my own experience, I have noticed less interest at the various auction houses here and abroad in regards to doubles of lesser quality. Also Italian shotguns are way off, whether best grades or not. However, the opposite is true for "best" English & Scotish high grade doubles which have fetched in some cases beyond there recent retail prices. Which is great news for those of us who invest in such specimens.


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Re: DR value? [Re: ]
      #118833 - 14/11/08 06:15 AM

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Just speaking from my own experience, I have noticed less interest at the various auction houses here and abroad in regards to doubles of lesser quality. Also Italian shotguns are way off, whether best grades or not. However, the opposite is true for "best" English & Scotish high grade doubles which have fetched in some cases beyond there recent retail prices. Which is great news for those of us who invest in such specimens.





Flight to quality as usual - and to a certain extent
the originals - original country that made them, original in condition.

Which is why Englsh guns with the limited quantity available will IMHO aways maintain values if not go up.


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Re: DR value? [Re: 500Nitro]
      #119658 - 28/11/08 01:28 PM

i guess the swedes just aren't fooled into buying overpriced rifles.

no one buys over under rifles unless they sell quite cheaply.

there were no big bore rifles listed - those all went to England to be sold i'm sure.

and the ask prices for some of the small bores 280, 9,3 etc are overvalued for caliber..... not just in sweden, but most everywhere. so its no surprise they are unsold. you can buy modern rifles for far less.

i have merkel - extractor - double rifles for sale at $7,900 in scroll engraved in cals 375 and 500 or $8,900 for game scen engraved with upgrade wood - cals 375, and 470. maybe one 416 rigby.

there is a hell of a lot more value there than at the overpriced auctions in sweden.

tom ondrus - the merkel man ftondrus@hotmail.com skype 814 859 0008


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