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Re: Holland & Holland - help to identify rifle [Re: FULTON]
      #109851 - 16/07/08 03:42 PM

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It's the flat side of the bottom of the barrel. A gunsmith in London tells me that "39 bore" is .493

Your thoughts ???




Your pictures don't come up for me, although they did before.

Sounds like the normal marks for a .500 BPE proved before 1887. The flats of a .500 BPE proved in London before 1887 would bear the Definitive Proof Mark (crown over the letters "GP" interlaced in a cypher), the "view" mark (crown over the letter "V"), and the number "39". These marks on the flats are from Definitive (final) proof, not Provisional. Bore diameter of rifles was marked in gauge prior to 1887, and "39" indicates a .500.

Although likely built by W. & C. Scott and from the same period, it didn't look like a 7 Patent Scott action (which Holland retailed under the name "Climax") to me.

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Re: Holland & Holland - help to identify rifle [Re: 400NitroExpress]
      #109909 - 17/07/08 02:58 PM

400NE-

Thanks for the clarification!



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Re: Holland & Holland - help to identify rifle [Re: 400NitroExpress]
      #109921 - 18/07/08 12:50 AM

400NE:

Thanks for the great information on the H&H.

The page with the pictures is temporally off line as you noted. That page is on the .Mac Apple server and if you've been following the news, they've been having big issues converting .Mac over to MobileMe. They sent me an email yesterday saying all is well, but it's not. Some of the pics on that page change, like magic, into Apple's main .Mac login page ?????? Then I couldn't log-in to correct the problem so I just unpublished it. Now it won't let me update my credit card information....so what's next. Now they're offering a free 30day extension on my subscription for the inconvenience. Will just wait it out for a week or two and try again.

If you'd like to see that picture in question, I could email it to you but I don't want you to give up that information here. I looked at that "send a private message" area and didn't see were you could attach a picture.

Again, thanks for your help

FULTON


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