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Re: dreyse double [Re: 93x64mm]
      #357698 - 29/10/21 05:28 AM

double gun 15,5mm , N.Dreyse Sömmerda, SN 449
https://www.gazette-drouot.com/lots/14536935





















N.v.Dreyse Sömmerda double gun 16 ga, SN 36662
https://www.gazette-drouot.com/lots/16263129















F.v.Dreyse double gun
https://www.gazette-drouot.com/lots/3244747



another one maybe 21264, https://www.gazette-drouot.com/lots/7439813









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Re: dreyse double [Re: lancaster]
      #357702 - 29/10/21 07:49 AM

It is amazing that so many of these old guns are still about Lancaster!

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Re: dreyse double [Re: lancaster]
      #358197 - 17/11/21 05:31 AM

single shot gun, 071", SN 2082























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Re: dreyse double [Re: lancaster]
      #358214 - 17/11/21 11:56 AM

Interesting location for the rear sight. Yikes!

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Re: dreyse double [Re: lancaster]
      #358911 - 05/12/21 08:30 PM

lady's rifle SN 6901
https://www.finn.no/bap/forsale/ad.html?finnkode=236972874

















the self loading carbine with the rare target rear sight
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=14577194













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Re: dreyse double [Re: lancaster]
      #359955 - 02/01/22 08:39 PM

o,70", SN 16964
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=14645769



















F.v.Dreyse double gun, 0,70", SN 18298
https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f...=101774720#lg-3

















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Re: dreyse double [Re: lancaster]
      #362050 - 16/02/22 01:53 AM

a Franz v. Dreyse hammergun looks like 16 ga https://www.gunbroker.com/item/924047696



















another 16 ga for sale in france, barrels looking like cut of once
https://www.naturabuy.fr/Fusil-Dreyse--item-8859461.html



















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Re: dreyse double [Re: lancaster]
      #363810 - 23/03/22 04:25 PM

double gun,0,70" SN 28298
https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f...=101774720#lg-3


















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Re: dreyse double [Re: lancaster]
      #363835 - 24/03/22 07:57 AM

Amazing that there are so many of these old birds still around!
I supposed because of their firing method, that making the cartridges would be a real labour of love, so these guns would not actually be shot much at all.
I think you posted the way this was done at some stage Lancaster - just can't find it that's all!


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Re: dreyse double [Re: 93x64mm]
      #363848 - 24/03/22 04:38 PM

don't worry I have a book project about this topic so some day...

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Re: dreyse double [Re: lancaster]
      #365324 - 08/05/22 05:03 AM

F.v.Dreyse 16 ga hammer gun,SN 33xxx later nitro proofed in britain
https://www.naturabuy.fr/SUBLIME-FUSIL-ALLEMAND-CALIBRE-16-70-item-9098282.html

























patent rifle now something like 8x37R but looks like a 11 mm barrel with a liner, SN 28986
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/929467326













































M/65 sporter https://www.gunbroker.com/item/931450376




























one of the very rare muzzle loader doubles
https://kesslerauktionen.ch/wp-content/uploads/katalog52-2.pdf



single shot pistol, , 0445", SN 3277
"Cal:d:Zpfzdsp:0,445" 1/2 4 Pulv:"
https://www.hermann-historica.de/de/auctions/lot/id/529501













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Re: dreyse double [Re: lancaster]
      #367811 - 17/07/22 11:22 AM

copy of a dreyse muzzle loader double gun( 12 ga) by William Kirchberg of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania,

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail...dlefire-shotgun









M&W Sömmerda, double gun 16 ga, SN 32782
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/939593786








































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Re: dreyse double [Re: lancaster]
      #368425 - 18/08/22 04:41 AM

Drilling 9.3x72R and 16 ga, SN 37658
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=18393764

















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Re: dreyse double [Re: lancaster]
      #368428 - 18/08/22 07:57 AM

At the time this drilling was made the “Ammo & Arms Factories in Soemmerda, vormals = formerly von Dreyse” were a subsidiary of Heinrich Ehrhardt’s Rheinmetall companies. The drilling was made to the Robert Schrader, Goettingen, 1898 DRPatent Nr. 100914. All the Schrader patent guns were made at the Soemmerda factory. This is another example of the so-called “safety guns” that could be carried fully loaded and uncocked, but could be cocked and set on “Fire” with a single movement. I function Schrader’s locks were based on the same idea as F. Beesley’s famous springcocking sidelocks, found on most Purdeys: A V mainspring engages the hammer with both limbs. The stronger limb pushes the hammer back to the full cock position, while the weaker one tries to push it forward to fire it. As long as both limbs are engaged, the gun cannot fire until a cam lifts the stronger limb out of engagement with the hammer. On the Purdey sidelocks this cam is operated by closing the barrels, making the guns self-opening. Schrader operated such a cam manually by the protruding “third trigger”. This trigger-shaped lever has three functions. Pushed forward it serves as the underlever, opening the action. In the middle position, as shown in the photos, the gun is safe as both mainspring limbs are engaged with the hammers. Pulled back against the grip it operates the cams that disengage the stronger limbs from contact with the hammers. As the cams go slightly beyond dead centre, the lever remains in the “Fire” up position until pushed down, snapping to the “Safe” middle position again. As you have to push the lever down/ forward all the way to open and reload the gun, the mainsprings bring the hammers back to their full cock positions automatically.

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Re: dreyse double [Re: kuduae]
      #368439 - 18/08/22 08:27 PM

I am not sure if not some schrader action guns were made before dreyse bought the right to make it. I have seen at least one schrader gun with no dreyse markings. in his 1899 book about hunting guns georg koch, who was the uncle of the firm owner Nikolaus v. Dreyse( the grandson), is mention the schrader action especially so this was probably the time when the firm was in talks with schrader about his patent.

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Re: dreyse double [Re: lancaster]
      #369204 - 12/09/22 01:21 PM

double gun 0,70" ; SN 7593
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/946149379























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Re: dreyse double [Re: lancaster]
      #371089 - 05/11/22 07:10 AM

patent rifle, more target than hunting 10 mm, SN 27400
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail...-sporting-rifle









lady's rifle 0,34", SN 32xx
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=18499648











patent rifle, ex 11mm , got a 8 mm liner











nice 1907 self loading carbine , SN 1460
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=18497672









































this could made some work in the future



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Re: dreyse double [Re: lancaster]
      #371622 - 20/11/22 04:15 AM

16 ga hammer gun, SN 21878
https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/a...792e47acdfe99d2



















a 0,34" target pistol, looks like without SN https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/a...1ac45ba2d6fa364

















F.v.Dreyse target rifle 11mm caliber, SN 22642
https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/a...1ac45ba2d6fa364























F.v.d. 0,70" double gun https://www.hutchinsonscott.co.uk/auctio...p;pn=1&g=1#

















F.v.D. target pistol 0,44", SN 13007
https://www.naturabuy.fr/PISTOLET-A-AIGUILLE-DREYSE-1865-item-9710968.html
























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Re: dreyse double [Re: lancaster]
      #371647 - 20/11/22 10:14 PM

Exquisite workmanship isn't it!

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Re: dreyse double [Re: 93x64mm]
      #371648 - 20/11/22 10:23 PM

we, today, have the clocks but they had the time

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Re: dreyse double [Re: lancaster]
      #373132 - 15/01/23 05:47 AM

F.v.Dreyse needle fire pistole, SN 13035
https://jjmilitary.com/product/german-dreyse-sommerda-military-needle-fire-pistol/


















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Re: dreyse double [Re: lancaster]
      #373636 - 30/01/23 07:32 PM

hammergun 16 ga, SN 25620
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/966363640































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Re: dreyse double [Re: lancaster]
      #374617 - 28/02/23 10:23 PM

double gun , SN 31777 https://www.naturabuy.fr/FUSIL-A-AIGUILLE-VERS-1840-item-10166136.html















lady's rifle, SN 6726 https://www.lauritz.com/en/auction/rare-8-mm-trigger-gun-octagonal-barrel-with-rifling/i6323731/











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Re: dreyse double [Re: lancaster]
      #375287 - 19/03/23 02:19 AM

small target rifle in 0,30, https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=19072929
SN 6291















double gun 0,70" SN 21179 https://www.gunbroker.com/item/975936080























single shot N.Dreyse,25-20(?) SN 35933
https://fusil.fi/?item=2436









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Re: dreyse double [Re: lancaster]
      #377014 - 28/05/23 02:41 PM

F.Dreyse combination gun in "28ga" and 11mm, SN 17631 with rod bayonet
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail...ith-rod-bayonet













dreyse ladys rifle, stock not original, SN 9552
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail...edle-fire-rifle








F.Dreyse double gun 16 ga(0,70") , SN 14733
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/987431090











another ladys rifle now original 0,34", SN 5788
https://auctionet.com/de/2717514-fire-ne...riennummer-5788















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