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Re: Combination Gun of the Week [Re: lancaster]
      #341735 - 05/06/20 10:48 AM

Incredible combo gun in its day.

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Re: Combination Gun of the Week [Re: lancaster]
      #341742 - 05/06/20 07:21 PM

I don't normally like the Germanic carving, but I do like this one. Nicely done. Thanks for posting.



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Re: Combination Gun of the Week [Re: NitroX]
      #341755 - 05/06/20 09:44 PM

She's a very fine piece to say the least - interesting calibers!

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Re: Combination Gun of the Week [Re: 93x64mm]
      #342973 - 03/07/20 12:09 AM

This one is in the upcoming Dorotheum, Vienna auction:
https://www.dorotheum.com/de/l/6774777/

Bockbüchsflinte, Gebrüder Merkel - Suhl, mit Schrotwechsellauf Kal.: 12/70 und Lederkoffer, Kal.: 7 x 57R/12/70,


Very nice combination, pre WW2, I think, quite similar to the one I bought recently (and am still waiting to have it here in Switzerland....), but quite some more class in it:
note the better locking system with Kersten crossbolts plus underlugs
nice wood, probably bespoke fitting (the Krawatte or chinstrap hints to that)
loong barrels (68 cm / almost 27´´ for the Bockbüchsflinte
probably 75 cm / almost 30´´ for the extra shotgun barrels
on top of that the leather case....

I like these combos! But one is enough for me, so I´ll relax and just watch...
fuhrmann

Edited by fuhrmann (03/07/20 01:37 AM)


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Re: Combination Gun of the Week [Re: fuhrmann]
      #342992 - 03/07/20 09:37 PM

Am I reading this right, starting at 450 Euros for this piece???
Bloody bargain if it is!


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Re: Combination Gun of the Week [Re: 93x64mm]
      #343003 - 04/07/20 02:06 AM

I was wondering that as well, but the starting price was listed as 450,E

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Re: Combination Gun of the Week [Re: DarylS]
      #343023 - 05/07/20 12:25 AM

That starting price may be 50% of the estimated market price.
Still a low estimate...
I will check the final sales price.
Nevertheless, those older combination guns often sell for shabby money in the German egun website, same goes for drillings. Neither young hunters nor collectors want them.
I am quite sure they are higher valued in your countries!

Edited by fuhrmann (05/07/20 12:32 AM)


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Re: Combination Gun of the Week [Re: fuhrmann]
      #343029 - 05/07/20 01:23 AM

Certainly are here.

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Re: Combination Gun of the Week [Re: fuhrmann]
      #343077 - 06/07/20 11:46 AM

Quote:

That starting price may be 50% of the estimated market price.
Still a low estimate...
I will check the final sales price.
Nevertheless, those older combination guns often sell for shabby money in the German egun website, same goes for drillings. Neither young hunters nor collectors want them.
I am quite sure they are higher valued in your countries!




x5 to x10 here IMO.

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Edited by NitroX (08/07/20 01:31 PM)


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Re: Combination Gun of the Week [Re: NitroX]
      #343089 - 06/07/20 11:39 PM

Interesting to read, I wonder if there is a lack of collector interest in combos across the board in EU. They are one of my favorites personally.

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Re: Combination Gun of the Week [Re: themauserkid]
      #343103 - 07/07/20 05:30 AM

IMO not so expensive here in Finland: http://asejaretkeily.fi/?sivu=ase11





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Re: Combination Gun of the Week [Re: Igorrock]
      #343104 - 07/07/20 05:48 AM

Definitely not bad for a two barrel set, I prefer pre 1945 guns personally but that is still good looking. I love the styling in Austria.

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Re: Combination Gun of the Week [Re: 93x64mm]
      #343268 - 13/07/20 05:05 PM

Quote:

Am I reading this right, starting at 450 Euros for this piece???
Bloody bargain if it is!



Final price for that Merkel combo was 2048 Euro, including fee to the auction house and tax.


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Re: Combination Gun of the Week [Re: fuhrmann]
      #343270 - 13/07/20 05:17 PM

Whoever got that one Fuhrmann - they got a BLOODY bargain!
Lucky buggers!!!


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Re: Combination Gun of the Week [Re: Igorrock]
      #345364 - 27/09/20 02:21 AM

for the combination gun a nice pre war sempert&krieghoff barrel insert 12 ga to 5,6x35R Vierling
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=11590335





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Re: Combination Gun of the Week [Re: lancaster]
      #345370 - 27/09/20 06:45 AM

There are a lot of BRNO, CZ 584-03 Mod 2 CPL., CZ 584-03 Mod 3 CPL and Valmet combination guns, in 12 bore with .22 Savage Hipower - 5.6x52mm for $345 to about $495.00, cdn.
The Tikka M77K Combination Gun in 12GA over 5.6x52R run $550.00.

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Re: Combination Gun of the Week [Re: NitroX]
      #348133 - 19/12/20 04:02 PM

schüler herkules drilling 16/70+ 7x65R
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=12808620













a nice little drilling by an unknown suhl gunmaker for the 6,5x52R ( 25/35 WIN - iirc)and 28 ga what you don't find every day
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=12798092#img











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Re: Combination Gun of the Week [Re: NitroX]
      #349026 - 09/01/21 07:45 AM

a Ferlach made Drilling with two barrels for the 450/400 NE and one shotgun barrel for 20ga 3 1/4 " long shell https://www.naturabuy.fr/Express-drilling-Autrichien-item-5794806.html















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Re: Combination Gun of the Week [Re: lancaster]
      #349045 - 09/01/21 05:11 PM

Sure are some interesting combos here.

I just received this garden variety Merkel 90, scoped with a 3.5-10 Leupold VX3i in a swing mount. It's 12/12/7X65R and can manage 3 shots in 1" at 100 yards with the barrels cooled down well between shots. These models have my favorite safety and selector setup.

It's a bit heavy. All I need now for it is a restored Panzer with a machine gun turret to mount it on. My Kreighoff Trumpf Dural in 16/16/7X65R with a Zeiss 1.5-6 in their LW three-claw mounts weighs 2.5 pounds less, relegating the Merkel to truck-gun status.







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Re: Combination Gun of the Week [Re: luv2safari]
      #353184 - 08/05/21 04:29 AM

Vierling, Aug. Jung, Viernau, Thüringen
Kal. 8x57 IR, Kal. 5,6x35 R, Kal. 12/65, Nr. 6049,
https://www.hermann-historica.de/de/auctions/lot/id/274446















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Re: Combination Gun of the Week [Re: lancaster]
      #353195 - 08/05/21 08:34 AM

Unusual one Lancaster - I thought the 5.6x65R was a insert for the 8x57 barrel, when looking at the photos the left barrel is slightly smaller, so 3 individual calibre barrels!
Amazing - I suppose there is a German term for such an wonderful piece!


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Re: Combination Gun of the Week [Re: 93x64mm]
      #353196 - 08/05/21 08:38 AM

Quote:

Unusual one Lancaster - I thought the 5.6x65R was a insert for the 8x57 barrel, when looking at the photos the left barrel is slightly smaller, so 3 individual calibre barrels!
Amazing - I suppose there is a German term for such an wonderful piece!




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Re: Combination Gun of the Week [Re: 9.3x57]
      #353208 - 08/05/21 01:21 PM

to be clear, this is a Vierling having four barrels

its like a common Drilling, two 12ga barrels over 8x57IR and a little 5,6x35R Vierling barrel in the upper barrel rib or in the center between the big barrels

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Re: Combination Gun of the Week [Re: lancaster]
      #353211 - 08/05/21 01:28 PM

Now THAT is cool. .22 Hornet in the upper rib.

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Re: Combination Gun of the Week [Re: DarylS]
      #354451 - 20/06/21 09:14 PM

A Bockbüchsflinte by Glanznig - Ferlach at it´s best!
Interesting rifle caliber - a wildcat 7.62x74R. And a 16 ga shotgun barrel
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=14423193



























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