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Re: Dreyse Double [Re: DarylS]
      #335398 - 13/12/19 05:40 AM

just wait until I open my christmas present, only 12 days

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christmas present [Re: lancaster]
      #335812 - 25/12/19 05:23 PM

with the help of xausa - thank you very much again - I was able to get my christmas present over the pond.



















great, what we have here is an old gun, with beaten up stock, some rust and the lock is missing!
thats what I was good for the whole year?

yes, that is it and I must have been very good!
this is the number two rifle of a type that came in production at least in 1860 but probably was older - between 1856 and 1859 - and seems to be the oldest break action single shot stalking rilfe firing fixed ammo ever made.
there could have been similar stalking rifles for pinfire cartridges but I did not find it yet.





it came with the original sling ruptured sometimes. will let it repair for display and make a new one after this patern.










the rifle was made for the 0,49" paper cartridge but sometime's in history was changed for the 40 mm long 32 gauge case, called Kugelhülse - bullet case here. when making the new lock it must be a needle fire priming action again because only this is licence free. the caliber is a little bit over .500 so I assume they use 32 ga paper shells having a smaller diameter inside.




the extractor was added later






with my carcano stutzen project you see its a very handy rifle





with the dreyse military rifle



when ready one fine day it will be legal up to roedeer here

merry chistmas for everyone including gun haters!

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Re: christmas present [Re: lancaster]
      #335813 - 25/12/19 05:42 PM

Very interesting rifle lancaster!
Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to seeing the "in progress" photos during the coming months.

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Re: christmas present [Re: Iowa_303s]
      #335817 - 26/12/19 12:36 AM



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Re: christmas present [Re: lancaster]
      #335821 - 26/12/19 04:38 AM

MOST interesting, lancaster. If anyone can do this job, it's you.

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Re: christmas present [Re: DarylS]
      #335823 - 26/12/19 04:47 AM

Wow
Very nice!

Merry Christmas!

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Re: christmas present [Re: tinker]
      #335826 - 26/12/19 07:32 AM

Very nice Lars, certainly very rare.

How was the wine, a 1999 no less, was it still any good.

Matt.

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Re: christmas present [Re: DarylS]
      #335827 - 26/12/19 08:16 AM

Quote:

MOST interesting, lancaster. If anyone can do this job, it's you.



Yep......110% correct there Daryl!
Now we'll have to be patient & see what transpires


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Re: christmas present [Re: 93x64mm]
      #335835 - 26/12/19 09:39 AM

I find the muzzle filing, of the grooves also quite interesting on a ctg. firearm. This was common on the Jaeger muzzleloading rifles to east loading with cloth patch and round balls.

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Re: christmas present [Re: DarylS]
      #335843 - 26/12/19 04:53 PM

next to last 1999, still good and so I hope for the last bottle next christmas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwNV7TAWN3M


not start working I am still in good hope to master the problems, an enthusiasm that maybe cool down a little bit by the problems occur.
rifle will go to my gunmaker next days for losing all screws. he is an real master in this and when I try it here screws number 3( was a little one) simple turn off the head.





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I find the muzzle filing, of the grooves also quite interesting on a ctg. firearm. This was common on the Jaeger muzzleloading rifles to east loading with cloth patch and round balls.




me and other looking for the real missing link between muzzle and breechloader are aware of such things. only because people once starting to made breechloader it does not mean they were leaving their era completly in one big step.

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Re: christmas present [Re: lancaster]
      #335846 - 26/12/19 06:33 PM

Quote:






Lars, looks like you had a Merry Christmas.

Like the boar on the label.



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Re: christmas present [Re: lancaster]
      #335847 - 26/12/19 07:53 PM

Good to see that the bottle of wine was still good.

Not sure about the film clip though, Old George Michael and his crew were as Camp as a row of tents. Now he spends his days exposing himself to young boys in public toilets.

Still, I hop you get the old rifle working again.

Matt.

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Re: christmas present [Re: 93x64mm]
      #335858 - 27/12/19 02:59 AM

Quote:

Quote:

MOST interesting, lancaster. If anyone can do this job, it's you.



Yep......110% correct there Daryl!
Now we'll have to be patient & see what transpires




Agreed... not my flavor but find it very interesting..

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Re: christmas present [Re: NitroX]
      #335872 - 27/12/19 07:09 AM

This is one of many reasons I lurk here. This is one of the most interesting rifles I've seen, and I'll be following the process of getting it in action.

Rates a Two-Cool!



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Re: Dreyse Double [Re: lancaster]
      #335896 - 27/12/19 05:55 PM

F.v.Dreyse 16 ga hammer gun https://egun.de/market/item.php?id=7746630













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Re: Dreyse Double [Re: lancaster]
      #336400 - 10/01/20 05:41 AM

pair of duelling pistols, Franz v. Dreyse 0,44" SN 13013 + 13042
https://luger.gunboards.com/showthread.php?103185-Dreyse-please-information&highlight=dreyse



















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Re: christmas present [Re: lancaster]
      #337037 - 25/01/20 11:24 PM

little patent rifle for the 4 mm rimfire cartridge, SN 24702
https://aukro.cz/jednoranna-kulovnice-mauser-f-drayse-znacena-cislovana-od-1-kc-6961300267





































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Re: dreyse double [Re: lancaster]
      #338824 - 09/03/20 01:23 AM

HH spring auction don't bring so much new stuff like they had the other years

Mannlicher pistol SN 127 made by Dreyse with surprising 5000 euro starting bid
https://www.hermann-historica.de/de/auctions/lot/id/59528









not the best shape this rifle looks like a 6 mm minitur Dreyse military rifle but it seems this fire a 10 mm round , SN 17849
https://egun.de/market/item.php?id=8206386













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Re: Dreyse Double [Re: lancaster]
      #339195 - 19/03/20 04:47 AM

additional pics to rifle SN 17849















lady's rifle SN 6924 https://egun.de/market/item.php?id=8220556












0,74" double gun, SN 29259
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail...by-side-shotgun









two old friends back in auction https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/79/3310/cased-pair-of-german-breech-loading-target-pistols

serial number is given now with 37709 what can be only one pistol, 8,5 mm could be 9 mm rimfire or 380 CF



























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Re: Dreyse Double [Re: lancaster]
      #339634 - 01/04/20 05:07 AM

lady's rifle, SN 14257
https://egun.de/market/item.php?id=8227599















project https://egun.de/market/item.php?id=8644707
but allready on 100 euro and the auction still going on



















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Dreyse Double [Re: lancaster]
      #339932 - 09/04/20 04:24 AM

16 ga double gun by M&W Sömmerda , vorm. v.Dreyse, SN 37901
https://www.dorotheum.com/de/l/6601969/










late F.v.dreyse needle fire double gun, rotatiosnstück unusual in the left barrel( most time right side)
https://sadde.auction.fr/_fr/lot/fusil-d...67#.Xo4Vks3gqUk






double rifle F.v.Dreyse Sömmerda, 15 mm caliber, 0,71" SN 6660

https://www.auction.fr/_fr/lot/zundnadel...ezogen-15819976



same lot like SN 6618

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Re: Dreyse Double [Re: lancaster]
      #341343 - 24/05/20 05:10 PM

A RARE SIDE-OPENING PATENT 12-BORE HAMMERLESS GUN BY F. von DREYSE (SMMERDA), NO. 33290

https://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/...bjectID=1374656



A RARE SIDE-OPENING PATENT 16-BORE (NEEDLE-FIRE) HAMMERLESS GUN BY F. von DREYSE (SMMERDA), NO. 27641


https://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/...bjectID=1374656

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dreyse double [Re: lancaster]
      #341545 - 31/05/20 06:47 PM

v. Dreyse double gun 0,74", SN 5853
https://www.naturabuy.fr/fusil-dreyse-calibre-12-item-6787495.html


























nickel plated civilian reichsrevolver 83 , very unusual
https://www.naturabuy.fr/Tres-rare-Proto...em-6763029.html











looks like a hybrid reichsrevolver 79 /83, again nickel plated
https://one.nbstatic.fr/uploaded/2020052...10-55--009-.jpg













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Re: dreyse double [Re: lancaster]
      #343394 - 20/07/20 01:25 AM

N.v.Dreyse o/u double rifle in 11,15x60R, SN 34310
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=9156797













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Re: dreyse double [Re: lancaster]
      #343405 - 20/07/20 03:33 AM

Wow that's nice.
If I was set up to actually be able to receive that rifle, I'd be bidding on it.

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