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DennisDaigger
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Another Martini
#333858 - 26/10/19 03:45 PM

Over the last five years I have created threads on another forum of two miniature BSA Martini projects that I have built and the conversation there is out of control so am looking for a more comfortable place to share some of my work. Here is the one I finished early this year and if there is any interest in the details I can reconstruct the project from its inception here.

The other project is a four barreled BSA Martini with a black walnut chest.
Dennis

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Re: Another Martini [Re: DennisDaigger]
#333859 - 26/10/19 03:47 PM

looks perfect!
please show more pics

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Re: Another Martini [Re: lancaster]
#333860 - 26/10/19 04:32 PM

Great looking rifle!

Please feel free to give us all the details.
You will have an appreciative audience here.

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Re: Another Martini [Re: tinker]
#333861 - 26/10/19 10:15 PM

Finally someone who knows how to make a graceful lever on a Martini. Beautiful gun, well done.

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Edited by DoubleD (26/10/19 10:17 PM)

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Re: Another Martini [Re: DoubleD]
#333863 - 27/10/19 12:23 AM

That is superb work! Please show more photos.

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Re: Another Martini [Re: CptCurl]
#333868 - 27/10/19 01:37 AM

I can't believe that an internet thread would degenerate into a morass of petty narcissism and table-thumping nerd rage.

Your Martini looks great. The 25-35, when I manage to find a reamer, will likely become my main gun. Just something about it.

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Re: Another Martini [Re: DoubleD]
#333869 - 27/10/19 01:41 AM

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Finally someone who knows how to make a graceful lever on a Martini. Beautiful gun, well done.

Not just the lever but everything I see on this rifle is top notch.
To my eye, the little things such as the shape of the flat on the stock, how the checkering works with the shape of the grip, the sling swivels, how the lever comes down and meets the grip cap, etc. are what put this particular Martini way above most that you see.
I want to know how much of this build did you do on your own. It all looks like “Guild” quality to me!

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Re: Another Martini [Re: Huvius]
#333871 - 27/10/19 01:51 AM

Dennis, your Martini is superb. Interesting 'old tune' ctg. as well.
Very interesting indeed.

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Re: Another Martini [Re: DennisDaigger]
#333876 - 27/10/19 04:38 AM

Thanks for the positive feedback.
The project started with a non-takedown BSA Model 12 action, a Krieger 1.3" full round barrel and a nice stock blank from Denli.

Project collaborators:
Morris Melani Big Lake Alaska-barrel threading, chambering and full ovate profile; design and making of takedown mechanism; design and making of base for aperture sight

Peter Nagel-lever handle welding

Jim White Wasilla Alaska-engraving

Turnbull-color case harding

All stock work, metal finishing, conversion to center fire, nitre bluing and rust bluing, rebuild and mounting of scope in AKAH vintage rings and base, creation of cherry trunk is mine.

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Re: Another Martini [Re: DennisDaigger]
#333877 - 27/10/19 04:45 AM

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Re: Another Martini [Re: Huvius]
#333878 - 27/10/19 07:25 AM

Quote:

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Finally someone who knows how to make a graceful lever on a Martini. Beautiful gun, well done.

Not just the lever but everything I see on this rifle is top notch.
To my eye, the little things such as the shape of the flat on the stock, how the checkering works with the shape of the grip, the sling swivels, how the lever comes down and meets the grip cap, etc. are what put this particular Martini way above most that you see.
I want to know how much of this build did you do on your own. It all looks like “Guild” quality to me!

I think 'Guild' quality is spot on here, beautiful work to say the least from all involved!
Could you step through the work involved in more detail please as to the scope, mounts, peep sight etc - absolutely stunning workmanship!
Is that also a take down mechanism that you have on this rifle as well?
We can't get enough of quality around here!
Love the case work also, that could be a whole segment by itself.....

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Re: Another Martini [Re: 93x64mm]
#333882 - 27/10/19 08:11 AM

Oh yes - WOW!

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Re: Another Martini [Re: 93x64mm]
#333883 - 27/10/19 09:54 AM

The initial inspiration for my two Martini projects came from an early Hoffman .25-20 WCF that I bought some time ago. It has an inordinately elegant stock and Michael Petrov believed it was the work of John Dubiel.

This is a full sized rifle built for an adult and the proportions are, to me at least, as good as it gets and when I stocked my Martinis the Hoffman was the backdrop.

I scribed circle arcs at the rear of the action for the scallops and used a chain saw file to remove the bulk of the material. A 1 1/2" magna-tip sharpening stone was then used to finish the work.

I replaced the original through bolt with a 1/4" shanked one made from drill rod. Then 5/16" and 5/8" gun drills were used to drill the hole through the stock. The blank was inletted into the back of the action, rough shaped and set aside for other work.

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Re: Another Martini [Re: DennisDaigger]
#333884 - 27/10/19 10:05 AM

Holy Cow! Man, you have talent. Do you work for others?

Thanks for posting this thread. I haven't seen the one you complained of and don't intend to look. Only an idiot could cast aspersions on this work.

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Re: Another Martini [Re: CptCurl]
#333898 - 27/10/19 02:14 PM

The vitriol was not directed at me or my work but by a few very uncivil canons loosing on folks that didn't seem to deserve it. I'm a self taught amateur working for myself that loves nice guns and thought it would be a lot faster teaching myself to become a gunmaker than to take so much time and money to become a doctor or lawyer and have guns made for me.

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Re: Another Martini [Re: DennisDaigger]
#333902 - 27/10/19 04:30 PM

Quote:

Over the last five years I have created threads on another forum of two miniature BSA Martini projects that I have built and the conversation there is out of control so am looking for a more comfortable place to share some of my work.

I was confused by later comments, so went back and see the origin of those comments was elsewhere.

You are very welcome.I doubt there would be such a problem here.

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Here is the one I finished early this year and if there is any interest in the details I can reconstruct the project from its inception here.

Yes please.

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The other project is a four barreled BSA Martini with a black walnut chest.
Dennis

I assume that is four exchangeable barrels? Would be nice to see as well.

This Martini displayed, a lovely work of gunmaking art, and would be a joy to use.

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Re: Another Martini [Re: NitroX]
#333906 - 27/10/19 08:01 PM

Absolutely beautiful, as someone who is currently building a 30-30 on a 12/15 action this is an inspiration. Mine will be for a dedicated roe and muntjac rifle but I am sure I will take the odd fallow with it. All the details are beautifully done!
How or who did the CCH? Fabulous.
Does it have a safety?
Thank you for posting here and I look forward to seeing more of your talented work!
Regards K

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Re: Another Martini [Re: karamoja]
#333908 - 27/10/19 08:52 PM

Very nice

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Re: Another Martini [Re: HeymSR20]
#333912 - 28/10/19 01:12 AM

The more I look at it the more I want to look at it.

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Re: Another Martini [Re: 93x64mm]
#333913 - 28/10/19 02:27 AM

The takedown mechanism was the creation of Morris Melani, a very gifted machinist and guild metalsmith. It has no protrusions outside the profile of a non-takedown rifle and works great. It has a spring activated sliding bolt that locks the barrel at an indexed position into a slot milled in the front of the action. When the bolt is retracted a second spring locks the bolt into a detent at the rear of the bolt movement. When the barrel is screwed fully in you simply press the button at the bottom of the forearm in and it snaps forward into the locked position.

Here are some pictures of the mechanism.

Dennis

Edited by DennisDaigger (28/10/19 02:44 AM)

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Re: Another Martini [Re: karamoja]
#333914 - 28/10/19 02:42 AM

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Absolutely beautiful, as someone who is currently building a 30-30 on a 12/15 action this is an inspiration. Mine will be for a dedicated roe and muntjac rifle but I am sure I will take the odd fallow with it. All the details are beautifully done!
How or who did the CCH? Fabulous.
Does it have a safety?
Thank you for posting here and I look forward to seeing more of your talented work!
Regards K

Turnbull did the case colors. This is what they used to called 'mottled' and now call European. Nicely toned down. On my other Martini project I rubbed the case colors back with used pads so that the engraving showed better.

No safety and as you know this is one of the few faults of this action. Fortunately the striker spring tension holds the bolt just high when the action is opened to keep a cartridge from slipping from the chamber so that the rifle can be carried with a round in the chamber until shooting time.

Nice selection of a classic cartridge. Should serve your intended purpose quite nicely.
Dennis

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Re: Another Martini [Re: DennisDaigger]
#333917 - 28/10/19 03:15 AM

Beautiful rifle. Thanks for sharing. Very inspirational.

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Re: Another Martini [Re: DoubleD]
#333942 - 28/10/19 10:07 AM

I have always liked and preferred the Martini lever modification for the pistol grip sporting rifles

You certainly have done a very good job for your small Martini

This is my Isaac Hollis .577/450 game rifle which I like very much

Good luck in your future endeavours

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Re: Another Martini [Re: TH44]
#333944 - 28/10/19 11:01 AM

TH44,
Nice rifle and the lever terminus is classic.

I started the lever modification by cutting most of the original off and then forming a piece of D2 to the desired curve. This was welded on to the action end of the lever. A tube of 1018 steel was welded to the other end. I then made buttons to cap each end of this tube. These caps were engraved and then nitre blued. They are secured with a screw from one side. The buttons are just in front of the breech block in the photo.

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Re: Another Martini [Re: 93x64mm]
#333945 - 28/10/19 01:12 PM

The scope on this rifle is one of my two favorite scopes for rifles. This particular Martini has a Zeiss Zielklein mounted but I have an equal affection for the Hensoldt Klein-Dialyt. The small steel tubes allow for sleek profiles, good blending of surface finish with the rifle finish, they are small and compact, are well made, have excellent optics and in short, simply work for me. This photo shows four that I have. From top to bottom: Bock kipplauf 7x57; 1903 Springfield .400 Whelen; this Martini; and; last is in reserve should I build something else that I'd like to scope.

To prepare these for use I completely disassemble them and remove the dried lube, clean the lenses and completely remove the finish from the body. In the cases of the Bock and this Martini I needed to solder the tubes into the rings after 'plumbing' them. The Springfield was easy, it was a Griffin and Howe side mount with split rings.

I'm getting better at keeping the excess solder to a minimum but the clean up is always tedious. Then rust bluing, relube and reassembly.

The Martini scope is mounted in an early AKAH mount that uses levers to lock it in. The Bock had an additional problem. It had claw bases but no rings so I had to make the rings, a challenge I won't soon repeat.

I'll do a post of the peep sight in a bit.
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Re: Another Martini [Re: DennisDaigger]
#333946 - 28/10/19 02:54 PM

WOW - so much "work" taken for granted, yet to see it being done, is enlightening.

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Re: Another Martini [Re: DarylS]
#333985 - 29/10/19 07:12 AM

What do you do when you reassemble the scopes - do so inside a perplex tank filled with nitrogen?

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Re: Another Martini [Re: 93x64mm]
#334009 - 29/10/19 06:44 PM

Magnificent work, just love these old girls, just sold off a few old English sporters on the large frame as I'm looking for a pistol grip stock model & I just don't like the hassle of the 577/450 that they were chambered in, I still have too many 577/450's unfortunately, a Jones Underlever single & a very nice (but scruffy) Cape gun underlever both meant to be other calibers when I got them !

I also have a safe full of the small frame's Cadets-12's-12/15 & Francotte, strangely one of the Francottes was converted to Rimfire from Centerfire & the chamber sleeved to .22, shoots amazingly well !

Nothing like your beauty, wish I could do that quality work !

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Re: Another Martini [Re: NitroX]
#334189 - 05/11/19 05:02 AM

Here are some images of the chest and trunk for the 4-barreled Martini rifle.

The chest is constructed of black walnut and Alaska yellow cedar and the gun trunk is Honduras mahogany. The chest has a Gerstner style shutter that locks when the lid of the chest is closed and when removed reveals two drawers that house the barrels and the Lyman 310 reloading tools for the .25-20 WCF cartridge. The second drawer also houses the four cartridge blocks for the chamberings. The bottom shelf is for storage of the gun trunk.

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Re: Another Martini [Re: 93x64mm]
#334190 - 05/11/19 05:05 AM

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What do you do when you reassemble the scopes - do so inside a perplex tank filled with nitrogen?

Ambient air is all that fills the tubes. Silicone grease is used lightly on the ocular inner tube and around the top turret. We are a really harsh environment for scopes and this has worked fine to keep the water out.

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Re: Another Martini [Re: DennisDaigger]
#334191 - 05/11/19 06:27 AM

Ho Ho Holy Crap, that is absolutely awesome work, great looking set, Thank you for sharing here !

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Re: Another Martini [Re: Sarg]
#334193 - 05/11/19 07:04 AM

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Ho Ho Holy Crap, that is absolutely awesome work, great looking set, Thank you for sharing here !

I think that is the understatement if there ever was one; you're cabinet making skills are superb to say the least Denis!
It certainly has been a labour of love to get to this point, to have all the (Ideal) reloading tools & mould etc to really turn this into a true Safari trunk!

Some of the cartridge blocks are rimfire, how do you now switch between CF & RF on your action?
The mind boggles?????

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Re: Another Martini [Re: 93x64mm]
#334197 - 05/11/19 08:52 AM

That's fantastic.
Really beautiful set of work there.

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Re: Another Martini [Re: tinker]
#334199 - 05/11/19 12:53 PM

Two breach blocks, one rimfire and one centerfire. The centerfire block was converted from a rimfire block. Four extractors. Calibers:
.17 HMR, 22LR, 5.6x50R, and .25-20 WCF,

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Re: Another Martini [Re: DennisDaigger]
#334202 - 05/11/19 03:50 PM

What can I say - absolutely marvelous work, Dennis.

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Re: Another Martini [Re: DennisDaigger]
#334213 - 06/11/19 03:32 AM

The barrels are 26" long, have a full ovate profile with integral oval Unertl style bases and three of them have longitudinal dovetails for front sights. The barrels were profiled by Morris Melani of Big Lake Alaska from 1.3" full round barrels and the front sight bases were also designed and made by him.

Edited by DennisDaigger (06/11/19 03:36 AM)

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Re: Another Martini [Re: DennisDaigger]
#334219 - 06/11/19 07:19 AM

WOW!
It really is amazing work, but my hat must certainly go off to you mate for getting this all organised & put together.
To work out exactly what you want all in your head first, it truly a labour of love for just 'another Martini'....I think not; more like "The Martini"

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Re: Another Martini [Re: 93x64mm]
#334221 - 06/11/19 09:47 AM

So impressive!
Takes the switch barrel Martini concept to the next level.

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Re: Another Martini [Re: DennisDaigger]
#334236 - 07/11/19 11:13 AM

These are the last images I'll post of the 4 barrel rifle.

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Re: Another Martini [Re: DennisDaigger]
#334237 - 07/11/19 11:36 AM

Really nice work

Photos from the field are always nice to see as time goes on!

Have a great weekend.

Cheers
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Re: Another Martini [Re: tinker]
#334239 - 07/11/19 12:02 PM

I want one!

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Re: Another Martini [Re: CptCurl]
#334241 - 07/11/19 01:19 PM

Dennis....congratulations!!, and thank you for sharing your work with us.

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Re: Another Martini [Re: CptCurl]
#334244 - 07/11/19 05:10 PM

Curl,
Maybe a lend. The .25-35 needs a proxy shooter at the next Don Kettelkamp Single Shot Stalking Rifle Match. A bit puny but surely a stalking rifle in every sense. After looking into attending last year it was simply too tiring to even think about but I do shoot vicariously in the match when reading the GGCA write ups.

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Re: Another Martini [Re: DennisDaigger]
#334245 - 08/11/19 12:00 AM

Back in the day I only dreamed of have having this kind of skill. I built a lot of plain Jane Martini sporters in my day, but never to this level. Mine always looked good and always shot well, but now where near the same class as these beautiful rifles. Did I say you mastered the lever end. Perfect!

A couple of questions about your thought process in building this gun-is a switch barrel, "this gun" or "these guns"?

Why didn't you build two trigger groups-one rim fire and one center fire?

How do you adjust for the 4 different load positions of the cartridges?

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Re: Another Martini [Re: DoubleD]
#334246 - 08/11/19 06:33 AM

DD,
The action is a takedown Model 6 and I was able to use the original breach block for both rimfire chamberings without any modification. Because there is a small difference in the head diameter of the .17 HMR and the .22LR there could have been an issue with the point of striker impact on the .17 HMR rim creating a problem with ignition. That didn't turn out to be a problem.

The centerfire breach block started as a rimfire and its position in the closed position was at the same height as the original rimfire block so the geometry of the block face to the breach end of the barrel was essentially the same. The change over to centerfire was pretty straight forward.

Parts for miniature Martinis are no longer easy to find so having another action group wasn't considered. When changing between rimfire and centerfire only the extractor and the block need to be swapped.

There is only one takedown screw for the four barrels and that was a bit more of a challenge. Morris used EDM to cut the tapers at the bottom of each barrel's threads and this works quite well.

Hope this answers your questions.

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Re: Another Martini [Re: DennisDaigger]
#334248 - 08/11/19 09:03 AM

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Curl,
Maybe a lend. The .25-35 needs a proxy shooter at the next Don Kettelkamp Single Shot Stalking Rifle Match. A bit puny but surely a stalking rifle in every sense. After looking into attending last year it was simply too tiring to even think about but I do shoot vicariously in the match when reading the GGCA write ups.

It would be an honor! But I think you should come shoot it with our group.

Here's the line-up from October 2019:

Curl

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Re: Another Martini [Re: CptCurl]
#334250 - 08/11/19 12:04 PM

Fine looking group of gentlemen.

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Re: Another Martini [Re: DoubleD]
#334251 - 08/11/19 12:57 PM

DD,
"this gun" or "these guns"?--I now simply think of it as a silly project. The only multi-barreled gun I want to work with in the future will have the barrels securely soldered together with ribs top and bottom. I still have the checkering to do on three forearms and the pistol grip, 2-3 rust bluing passes on the barrels and most of the case and chest lining to do. The lining is Hainsworth calvary yellow wool and complements the dark stuff nicely. This shows the lining of the reloading tools and ammo blocks that are inset into a 1 1/8" piece of yellow cedar that has been routed out.

The top part of the chest will house the action/butt stock, a Fecker and a Unertl scope, a cleaning rod and the BSA 8 peep sight. That part of the chest is not yet divided and lined.

Here is what the EDM cuts on the thread shank looks like and the precision of this process gives very good consistency from barrel to barrel.

This project is about mile 17 of a marathon and I can't imagine being a professional and having to do this for a client.

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Re: Another Martini [Re: 93x64mm]
#334252 - 08/11/19 01:50 PM

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Finally someone who knows how to make a graceful lever on a Martini. Beautiful gun, well done.

Not just the lever but everything I see on this rifle is top notch.
To my eye, the little things such as the shape of the flat on the stock, how the checkering works with the shape of the grip, the sling swivels, how the lever comes down and meets the grip cap, etc. are what put this particular Martini way above most that you see.
I want to know how much of this build did you do on your own. It all looks like “Guild” quality to me!

I think 'Guild' quality is spot on here, beautiful work to say the least from all involved!
Could you step through the work involved in more detail please as to the scope, mounts, peep sight etc - absolutely stunning workmanship!
Is that also a take down mechanism that you have on this rifle as well?
We can't get enough of quality around here!
Love the case work also, that could be a whole segment by itself.....

This should be the final post for the .25-35.

I had started making a peep sight base some years ago that fitted into the cleaning rod hole at the back of the action. I wanted something that could be easily removed instead of the fold-down BSA which invariably left a mark on the top of the pistol grip. I got as far as making a base but could not quite figure out how to make an aperture stem on a windage adjustable platform. I serendipitously ran into a Lyman 30 1/2 sight and immediately saw the possibility. I discussed the idea with Morris and he made a base that had a dovetail cut in the rear. The original Lyman base was discarded and the aperture stem was slide into the base and secured.

To index the base vertically Morris EDM'd a shallow inverted V into the top of the cleaning rod hole. A corresponding V is on the upper surface of the part of the base that inserts into the action hole. Finally a vertical thumb screw in the base locks the sight in place when it is screwed full down and engages a shallow depression in the top of the action tang.

These photos show the sight on Morris' project that was being built in parallel to mine. His has two rimfire barrels and there is a sight for each of the barrels.

I appreciate all of the positive feedback on these projects and hope these postings inspire someone to start or finish a languishing project.

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Re: Another Martini [Re: DennisDaigger]
#334256 - 08/11/19 04:42 PM

Haha, well I got mine out of the Gun Cabinet but any thing I can do would Pale into insignificance compared to your amazing skill but maybe I will finish one or two of them !

Thank you again for share your work & rifle/rifles here with us .

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Re: Another Martini [Re: Sarg]
#334342 - 10/11/19 11:42 AM

Superb work and a great concept. The metal work is fantastic as is the wood working in the case. I love the campaign style trunk, very much like the last 600 Jeffery by H&H. Amazing.

What line of work are you in or were in?

Matt.

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Re: Another Martini [Re: Waidmannsheil]
#334347 - 10/11/19 12:24 PM

Matt,
I was a land manager for the Alaska Department of Natural Resources for 30 years. Just under 9 years in the USAF before that. Just a loafer now.

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Re: Another Martini [Re: DennisDaigger]
#334348 - 10/11/19 12:42 PM

Amazing hand skills for someone who has not really worked with their hands for a living, in the sense of not having been a toolmaker or woodworker. Very good work.

Matt.

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Re: Another Martini [Re: CptCurl]
#334389 - 11/11/19 03:48 PM

Curl,
I turned 72 this year so would fit right in with the pack in your photo. We may be in the lower 48 with a Sprinter van next October so who knows?

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Re: Another Martini [Re: DennisDaigger]
#334390 - 11/11/19 10:12 PM

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Curl,
I turned 72 this year so would fit right in with the pack in your photo. We may be in the lower 48 with a Sprinter van next October so who knows?

It is a great event - lots of fun, and just the right people. This year we had perfect weather.

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I have an untouched Martini Cadet rifle. If I send it to you now, will it be ready for you to deliver back to me next October?

Many years ago I had a complete custom project done on a Martini Cadet. The work was outstanding, but your project takes the concept to another level altogether. I let mine go to help fund a double rifle acquisition. I would like to have it back.

Curl

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