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Ben
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My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE...
#163214 - 02/07/10 02:26 PM

The rifle arrived in town just over a week ago, and when the dies arrived earlier this week, my brother and I set-to making some pills for it.

With recommendations from forum members and Woodleigh, I have tried 82 and 83 grains of AR2213SC, and although they seem to shoot well, methinks them to be too warm based on the primers flattening-out. I'll continue experimenting, but am open to suggestions / thoughts. This is for the Woodleigh 400 grain RNSNs and Hydros (based on the recommendation on the Woodleigh website that Hydros be loaded the same as RNSNs). For playing around with solids, I used 81 grains of that same powder, with the same flat primer result. Forum Member Pato Senior was able to suggest another powder combination to try, which I will soon. Thanks to Forum Member Jeff for pointing me to it, I will also soon be checking-out www.ammoguide.com for hints.

Anyway, here are some photos of the pills:

I really enjoyed blasting some termite mounds with them a few days ago.

Edited by CptCurl (02/07/10 11:35 PM)

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#163216 - 02/07/10 02:30 PM

Here is a line-up of the rifles belonging to my visiting brother and me:

As you can see, the Ruger No.1 is short and sweet, a real little cutey.

Edited by CptCurl (02/07/10 11:36 PM)

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#163217 - 02/07/10 02:39 PM

Now, just this morning, my brother and I took the Ruger No.1 for its second walk this week in an attempt to initiate it, and we stumbled into some luck in the form of a feral jack donkey at a well-used donkey playground. To be honest, my first two shots missed, but in my defence, the donkey was moving and 120 metres away... Okay, okay, no excuses: I just missed, and I shouldn't have. It looked like I had no chance as the donkey sprinted further and further away into the savannah, but fortunately for us and unfortunately for the donkey, he didn't realise exactly where we were, and when he got to a dry creek, he turned and ran parallel to it, enabling me to cut across at a run and intercept it at what might've been a hundred metres; this time, the bullet brought it crashing to earth.

Edited by CptCurl (02/07/10 11:36 PM)

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Ben
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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#163218 - 02/07/10 02:43 PM

I gave myself a lesson in how not to hold this rifle properly. It was fine earlier in the week when I was shooting targets (termite mounds), as evidently I was holding it nice and tight. Today, I was a little too relaxed, I think, and tore my thumb some with the safety upon recoil:

It serves me right; lesson learned.

Edited by CptCurl (02/07/10 11:37 PM)

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#163222 - 02/07/10 03:20 PM

That looks like a great time (except for the thumb)! There was mention on another thread that Alex Beer has make a more suitable replacement safety that might help.

All of my bolt guns are Rugers (2x30-06 and 2x375). They make a sturdy reliable gun at a decent price, not too heavy and classicaly styled to my eyes at least.

What bullet did you get the critter with? Those new Woodleigh's definitely look interesting. If you can post more details of the bullet/load I'd love to hear them.

I've never owned a No 1 but have been seriously temped since they announced their 450/400, and excellent posts like this only makes it worse!

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Omnivorous_Bob]
#163223 - 02/07/10 03:48 PM

G'day Bob,

I used Hornady brass, Woodleigh 400 grain RNSN projectiles, and 83 grains of AR2213SC. One day I might just invest in a chronograph for the fun of it - I'm not sure, yet. I need to talk to Forum Member Drew about the flat primers, to see if he gets the same from his loads.

I do like Rugers, although I have shot them very little since I was a kid pinging-away at bunnies on the farm with a little semi-auto 10/22. That was fun!

Cheers,

Ben

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#163224 - 02/07/10 03:50 PM

PS - I'll pretty-much just use Woodleigh RNSNs for everyday hunting, and save the Woodleigh Hydros for buffalo.

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Omnivorous_Bob]
#163225 - 02/07/10 03:53 PM

Hi Ben & Bro.

The loaded pills look really mean. Hornady cases,??? Have you tried it on paper to see where each of the loads go in relation to each other?? that would be interesting as Geoff McDonald said that they go really close to his others?? For a change of subject, I finally got that movie to work on the cheapest "Dick Smith" portable player, not a bad movie but it does have the sound of an early film but the story line is good. Oh, sorry about the thumb and yes it will mend and yes Alex does have some features that would enhance it but that's after he finishes my 30.06 Ha Ha just joking.

Cheers Mate,

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#163233 - 02/07/10 08:23 PM

Quote:

This is for the Woodleigh 400 grain RNSNs and Hydros (based on the recommendation on the Woodleigh website that Hydros be loaded the same as RNSNs).

That is interesting. I have a pack of 300 gr .375 Hydros and also have loaded the 300 gr Woodleigh RNSP in my .375.

With only twenty Hydros to play with, if that works, it might be worth giving them a try.

As they are expensive and mono bullets aren't needed in Australia, thank goodness, they are IMO a bit of a novelty. In places like California they are more of a necessity.

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Ben,

I like the Ruger no. 1 in .450/400 and have to admit being tempted. But I'm looking at some point to acquire a .450/400 in a double rifle, so spending on a single shot just delays that purchase.

It looks like a fun rifle and a modern classic.

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: NitroX]
#163239 - 02/07/10 09:18 PM

Quote:

In places like California they are more of a necessity.

Too funny, John!

Yeah, they (the Hydros) really are most-likely of simple novelty value here, as I do know that normal 400+ grain Woodleigh RNSNs work just fine on buffalo. Although, I am looking-forward to trying one on a front-on bull, and seeing what penetration happens.

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#163273 - 03/07/10 08:50 AM

Good job on the donkey!! And taken with class with a classic.

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: degoins]
#163599 - 07/07/10 08:10 PM

With my brother having gone back down-south, I went for a solo walk today in order to check-out the donkey carcass. Being in a fairly dry area, it is still too early for a distant pig to have found it, it turned-out. The birdlife it had attracted was most interesting; it wasn't crows, kites or eagles (although I'm sure they have visited at some stage); instead, it was an assorted bunch of little bee-eater types, buzzing- and swooping-in to intercept flies or snatch-up maggots. They were very pretty little birds, and I wish my camera was sufficient to have reached-out to capture more and better images. Here are some:

Edited by CptCurl (07/07/10 09:00 PM)

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#163600 - 07/07/10 08:11 PM

Some scenery:

Edited by CptCurl (07/07/10 09:00 PM)

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#163603 - 07/07/10 08:26 PM

Having decided that no pigs would come in during the afternoon or evening, I set-off into burned country in a round-about route to get back to the Toyota. Descending a rise, I bespied donkey movement off to my left about two-hundred metres away. I crouched low, and quietly sought slightly lower altitude and better cover, and made some progress toward them, only to discover their unease as the wind swirled its dirty, gentle tricks. They knew something was up, but weren't sure where. They kept feeding along at an angle to me, coming slightly closer. I scanned all that I could see clearly out of the mob of about twelve, and eventually selected a jack. By this stage, I was motionless in the shade on the rocky bank of the rise, rifle readied and steadied on my knees, with safety catch on. I practiced aiming as the jennies gradually fed over the next rise and out of view, waiting for the jacks at the rear to make a move to follow, as they were still obscured by thin brush. Finally, the jack I was after came into the clear, and I suppose the shot distance was perhaps a-hundred-and-twenty metres, or thereabouts. A few quick Woodleigh 400 grain RNSNs were delivered, and the jack was killed. I had immensely enjoyed the walk and the hunt, and although I was happy with my success, I was also saddened to have taken the life of such a magnificent wild animal that survives in such a harsh area and climate. I have a great deal of admiration and respect for our humble feral donkeys, and my big game hunting experience has taken many lessons from time spent stalking and observing them.

Edited by Ben (07/07/10 09:22 PM)

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#163609 - 07/07/10 08:59 PM

Hi Ben,

Another well done is in order, it is a shame your brother has gone back home but now you can look forward to his next visit. Is there any value in the hide ?? winter of course.

Cheers Mate,

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: CHAPUISARMES]
#163611 - 07/07/10 09:02 PM

Ben,

Beautiful photos. You make that Ruger sound so good I'm tempted to buy one. (I'm such a gun whore!)

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: CptCurl]
#163616 - 07/07/10 09:29 PM

Thanks Jeff and Curl. Jeff, I don't believe there is any value in the hide, although one would look nice on the floor I imagine. They carry the Cross of Christ on their backs, and some of our mission-taught older aborigine folk view them as sacred as a result. I understand that they are very difficult to skin, easy to wreck, and I sure am not a talented skinner. Curl, I am indeed enjoying this new little toy; it has spiced-up my big bore rifle shooting and hunting, making my little experience richer.

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#163638 - 08/07/10 05:22 AM

That is beautiful country out there, and an awesome looking rifle. I wish one day to get my Ruger #1 out for a big game hunt!

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: KILLERtj]
#163670 - 08/07/10 06:32 PM

Very nice photos and good shooting. Did you recover any of the 400gr RNSNs? PM reply sent too.

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Ben
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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Drew_Jaeger]
#163673 - 08/07/10 07:37 PM

Thanks Drew and TJ. I didn't recover any projectiles. Once the pigs clean them up, I'll try my luck; next time, I'll think to have a dig. It would be interesting, for sure. I'll go and take some photos, Drew. Cheers!

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#163971 - 13/07/10 06:56 PM

Great rifle in a great calibre. The ruger #1 are a really nice rifle to carry and hunt with. I have stainless #1 in 45-70. 300 grn at 2450fps and the 405 Rems at 2000. I will be using it on pigs later this year. It would be great to try them on bigger stuff. We will see. Hope to hear about more results with yours.

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Ben
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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: 450]
#164962 - 25/07/10 06:25 PM

The rifle killed its first pig today; just a little one, but a happy time nevertheless. One Texas Heartshot did the trick (no exit).

Edited by CptCurl (27/07/10 09:36 PM)

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Ben
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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#164963 - 25/07/10 06:28 PM

She was taken with a 400-grain Woodleigh RNSN, by the way.

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#165006 - 26/07/10 06:37 PM

Mate good work, great to see you getting out there and giving it a go.

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Cinghiale]
#165055 - 27/07/10 04:32 PM

Looks great Ben, good post. What loads did you use for the SN's?

I'd like to replace my rear sight with one like on the Boddington rifles. Not sure where things got to regards sourcing them.

Cheers, Chris

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Ben
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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Rockdoc]
#165056 - 27/07/10 07:13 PM

G'day Chris,

I used 83 grains of AR2213SC for the RNSNs.

If you do find-out where those sights can be acquired, please let me know!

Cheers,

Ben

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Rockdoc]
#165064 - 27/07/10 09:37 PM

Damn, Ben! I didn't know the Texas heart shot had made its way to Oz.

Great success. Congratulations.

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#165521 - 02/08/10 06:09 PM

I have not seen the sights Boddington uses on his No1. Is it a peep sight?

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Ben
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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Rule303]
#165524 - 02/08/10 06:51 PM

Nope, it's a single standing express sight.

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Ben
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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#165912 - 08/08/10 01:51 PM

This morning a mate from New Zealand came along for a stroll to see if he could shoot his first Australian game. Eventually we found a few pigs, and after a good stalk he made two one-shot kills on the young boars. This little rifle is really sweet to shoot and is accounting well for itself despite being the new kid on the block.

Me and Greg Pearson with the two pigs he killed:

The Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" Nitro Express, just sitting back and enjoying the scenery:

Edited by CptCurl (16/08/10 09:36 PM)

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#165939 - 09/08/10 07:07 AM

man, you're having way too much fun with that little jewel!!!

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Ben
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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: degoins]
#166574 - 21/08/10 01:49 PM

For my first experience with a Woodleigh 400 grain Hydro, this little chap fell to one shot, broadside pass-through (of course), low chest with one busted leg; impressive spray:

Sadly, I was fumbling a little with reloading when the really big chap and others blew-out past me to disappear into the Never-Never, and embarrassingly I did miss one shot at a bolting pig. But it sure was fun!

Edited by CptCurl (21/08/10 04:48 PM)

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#166618 - 22/08/10 07:51 PM

That's awesome Ben. Little bloke really bled out!

What loads are you using for the hydro's and about how fast?

Cheers, Chris

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Ben
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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Rockdoc]
#166619 - 22/08/10 08:30 PM

G'day Chris, I'm using exactly the same as I do for the 400 grain RNSNs: 83 grains of 2213SC. I really don't know how fast they go. Someday I'll get a chrony.

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#166620 - 22/08/10 08:34 PM

Thanks Ben. Much change in point of impact?

Cheers, Chris

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Rockdoc]
#166621 - 22/08/10 08:37 PM

I don't think so. I haven't tested any side-by-side on paper. All I've shot so far are termite mounds, and no matter what the projectile is, they all seem to go where I want them. Perhaps I'll shoot some paper when I head-up to Darwin to see a mate there, and beat my fear of the range!

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#166623 - 22/08/10 08:39 PM

Actually, I was a bit surprised by how low I hit the pig, as he wasn't that far away; I don't know if that was my bad or what, so I have a good excuse to do some more shooting and see.

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#166624 - 22/08/10 09:23 PM

In my 404j with 82 grains of 2209 and CCI mag primer the 400 grain Woodleigh RN produce 2270 fps.
The same load behind the 400 grain Hydro produced 2350 fps and prints 2" lower at 100 yards.

My 9.3 with 286 grain Hydro's print about 4"lower than the 286 grain PP's.

In my fathers 338 win mag the 225 grain Hydro hits 1.5" lower than any of the normal 250 grain loads.

Here is the last two shots I fired before going to Africa.
The top one is a 400 grain Woodleigh RN
The centre one is the Hydro.

This is the 338 win mag before Africa.
The top bullet is the 300 grain RN
The other one is the 225 grain Hydro.

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: FATBOY404]
#166633 - 23/08/10 01:00 AM

Good consistancy, FATBOY404. The Hydro's cut nice holes, don't they.

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: DarylS]
#166648 - 23/08/10 07:13 AM

Interesting. They do indeed cut a nice hole.

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#167201 - 04/09/10 08:31 PM

The station manager's wife heard the dogs going crook one night, and went outside to find some buffalo in her garden. So, we've done a few trips out to poke along the nearby creek, and two of them have turned something up.

Earlier in the week, I got this little fellow. Two Woodleigh 400 grain Hydros did the trick, both entering the front of the chest next to each other. One was quartering-on, which exited out the ribs; I couldn't find an exit for the perfectly front-on one. He was shot at about seventy metres, and made perhaps forty. There was no need for insurance shooting.

Gabby waited very patiently for permission to tuck-in:

Then finally, today, my Kiwi mate was able to shoot his very first, also with the Woodleigh 400 grain Hydros. The shot distance was about sixty or seventy metres, and was taken front-on, exiting out in front of the hip, low-down. The little fellow made about seventy metres before crashing, and although probably unneccessary, two insurance shots were taken into the spine, both of which exited. Good meat all-round!

Edited by CptCurl (06/09/10 09:17 PM)

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#167218 - 05/09/10 12:43 AM

great stuff!! thanks for sharing and keep it coming!!

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: degoins]
#167323 - 06/09/10 09:20 PM

Damn Ben, you're going to wear that rifle out in the first year!

Great hunting.

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: CptCurl]
#168900 - 03/10/10 06:24 PM

Taken yesterday afternoon with Woodleigh 400 grain solids, plus a soft through the noggin as he thought about it when nearly wrecked (I'd run-out of solids):

A young boar shot this morning with a Woodleigh 400 grain soft, which entered his right shoulder (quartering-on) and exited his rear belly; the little one was released back in the nest with by the water:

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#168902 - 03/10/10 08:08 PM

Hi Ben,

Well done mate, you a very fortunate with all of your hunting exploits and I must say that you have a one in a million wife, don't forget to thank her and take out the garbage without being asked...

Cheers Mate,

Jeff

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: CHAPUISARMES]
#169000 - 05/10/10 01:33 PM

Nice animals Ben. I see your love affair with the 450/400 3" continues. Good hunting mate.

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Drew_Jaeger]
#173948 - 24/01/11 07:17 AM

To celebrate the re-opening of Nitro Express, here are some photos I'd like to share from yesterday's clay pigeon shoot with the Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE:

A fun way to spend a wet season afternoon!

Edited by CptCurl (24/01/11 09:53 PM)

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#173959 - 24/01/11 08:44 AM

Hi Ben,

It would be a "Fun way" any time of year let alone a "Wet season"

Glad to see you made it back from the parents safely. I guess the Rigby is very close now....

Cheers Mate,

Jeff

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: CHAPUISARMES]
#173962 - 24/01/11 08:54 AM

The contrast between you pictures is amazing. The dry season is very different to your newest pictures. Good logging tactics too!

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: AkMike]
#187900 - 13/08/11 10:48 PM

Testing today (thanks to John M. for the loan of a chrony) found my 400 grain RNSNs travelling at around 2050fps. Short a theoretical hundred, but still seem to work. Or, will they stop working now that I know?

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#187915 - 14/08/11 07:49 AM

Ben,

I believe ambient light makes a difference with those entry level chronos. A bright day will give different readings to an overcast day. It's nice to know what velocity your getting but the only way to determine trajectory is to shoot over known distances and observe and record the 'fall of shot' for yourself.

It certainly adds another dimension to reloading

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: tophet1]
#187916 - 14/08/11 08:12 AM

John M is right on this one as well.

To check my Chrony I put a couple of 22lr's over it first.

I have a "red" Chrony,my mate has a "green" chrony as well as an Ohler.

We lined the three up (end to end) and you would be surprised have close the three were.Less than 25 fps between them.

It is nice to know your velocity but not that important as you found.

I just use it to say "I want 2250 fps out of my 404" or "3000 fps out of my 8x68s".

There must have been some lies around before Chrony's were readily available.

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: FATBOY404]
#187918 - 14/08/11 08:42 AM

Yes, we found that once the sun is in the treeline, it wouldn't work. Even a few shadows interfered, and our best results were when we took the plastic canopy off.

Another interesting thing: Two weeks ago when we first tried it, my mate tested some 6.5x55 loads. This time, the same load tested almost 200fps faster. I think last time was maybe five or six degrees cooler. Does temperature make that much difference, or is something whacky somewhere? Unfortunately, I didn't bring the .416 Rigby out again to try yesterday, but when we used it that first time, its reading was a very satisfying 2350fps. Are some cartridges affected more by warmth?

For me, it is purely interesting to find-out. I very much doubt I will change anything on my .450/.400, as with solids or Hydros, it shoots through buffalo and bulls. And having used the .300H&H happily, I doubt I will pursue 3000fps with it, either.

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#187919 - 14/08/11 08:55 AM

Bro and I call our chronographs, "Lie Detectors".

Bought my first, a Model 12 Oehler in 1977. I've had a chronograph ever since. Used the Oehler until about '82 or .83, then bought a Pact Timer- still have that one and check my Chrony Beta master with it. They are usually within 5fps, whcih is amazing for a chronograph that's screens are so close (chrony). I've always used the 4' spacing on the Pact.

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#187930 - 14/08/11 01:12 PM

Quote:

Are some cartridges affected more by warmth?

I was taught in the army to always try and NOT leave your rounds out in direct sunlight for longer than possible. Try and keep them at least shaded even if it is only with a hat. If it was good enough for them then it was good enough for me.

I believe some powders are more susceptable to heat than others. Marketing tells me ADI powders less than others.

NEVER leave rounds on a dashboard during daylight.

EDIT: Dead is dead in my book. Another 100-200 fps is not going to make any difference.

Edited by tophet1 (14/08/11 01:14 PM)

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: tophet1]
#187931 - 14/08/11 02:56 PM

Yes, absolutely. These rounds weren't left in the heat. They were in the shade.

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#187951 - 15/08/11 08:45 AM

I've had issue 7.62x51 Nato ammo blow primers - drop out upon extraction from my match rifle - the ammo box was sitting in the sun on the pad, lid partially closed. Sun peeking in one side was enough to boost it well over safe.

The Hodgdon Extreme powders work well for me in heat and cold. For example, H4895 (ADI2206H?) gives me within 20fps. from +80F down to -10F. I was happy with that. I expected 100fps or more drop, like I get with Hodgdon's Lil'Gun in the .218Bee. I guess they didn't lie - about the Extreme's being temp stable. Too - ammo loaded up hot (high prssure) in the winter with that powder and Varget, didn't react any differently when shot in the summer.

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: DarylS]
#190213 - 19/09/11 09:17 AM

Ben, just got done reading all three pages. Congrats on a beautiful gun in an awesome caliber. I'd have loved to had it on my DG hunt, in Zimbabwe, last month. Our 375 H&H mag ruger no. 1s were great, but it would have been ultra cool to have done it with a 450/400 NE 3". But I told you that before. Gorgeous pics!

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#190601 - 24/09/11 08:12 AM

Ben

Pretty good photo's as far as I am concerned, nice rifle too, I like Ruger especially No1's. Mine are 1B in 30-06 and 1H in 375H&H Mag.

Edited by NZHunter (24/09/11 08:18 AM)

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: NZHunter]
#192138 - 19/10/11 10:07 PM

This is my .450/400 project and it's coming together.Refitted a better pad and an oversize rear sight,to be filed in.The trigger is at 3.5 lbs.I have not decided on the scope yet,but I do have a nice 3X Leupold on stand-by.

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Phillip]
#192140 - 19/10/11 10:12 PM

I love that recoil pad!

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Ben]
#192156 - 20/10/11 03:22 AM

He does a good job,my photo's aren't the best,but he does a good job rounding out the edges and polishing the pad.

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Re: My Adventure With Ruger No.1 in .450/.400 3" NE... [Re: Phillip]
#269856 - 01/09/15 11:45 AM

Some great pics in this post from 2010.

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