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peter
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revolving bore gun
      #119610 - 28/11/08 02:14 AM

Now i dont know about this idea but 4 shots of 12 bore with a rifled barrel, that gotta be fun

J.B. RONGE FILS (A LIEGE)
A RARE AND UNUSUAL 12-BORE (4-SHOT) REVOLVING HAMMER RIFLE, serial no. 47,
29 3/4in. nitro reproved rifled barrel, four-shot revolving cylinder for 2 1/2in. cartridges, sprung loading gate, the top-strap engraved 'J.B. RONGE FILS A LIEGE', top tang relief engraved and gold-inlaid with a coat of arms with two lions rampant, a shield with chequered design surmounted by a helm, the whole action reminiscent of a Tranter design, 14 1/2in. figured stock including steel buttplate, with trap containing an extractor, weight 10lb. 4oz.

it is up on the holts sale this december

best

peter

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Re: revolving bore gun [Re: peter]
      #119613 - 28/11/08 03:28 AM

Now THAT's an interesting revolver. Cylinder flash might be hard on the left arm, and lack of forewood makes one thing it's meant for a 'short' hold - one hand on the other.

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Re: revolving bore gun [Re: DarylS]
      #119615 - 28/11/08 03:43 AM

Peter-


Thanks for pointing that out.
Although I am keen on European bore rifles, this one -- not so much.

I've never been able to get excited about these revolving rifle contraptions. I've seen others with slightly different styling and detail, and as hard as I try I just can't get excited.
Rare and cool indeed, and it makes my SW500 PC Hunter appear properly proportioned (!!), perhaps if it were on the table in front of me...



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Re: revolving bore gun [Re: tinker]
      #119619 - 28/11/08 04:26 AM

Here's a revolving (action) rifle I could warm up to.






description from Holts:

CHARLES LANCASTER
A VERY RARE .360 (2 1/4IN) BLACK POWDER EXPRESS THORN PATENT (SECOND MODEL) OVAL-BORE DOUBLE-ACTION ROTARY-UNDERLEVER HAMMERLESS FOUR-BARRELLED RIFLE, serial no. 5517,
26in. black powder only fine damascus barrels with short sight rib, open sights and ramp-mounted bead foresight, tubes engraved 'CHARLES LANCASTER. 151. NEW BOND STREET. LONDON. PATENT FOUR BARREL BREECH LOADING HAMMERLESS SMOOTH BORE RIFLE', Thorn second (improved) patent double-action rotating striker patent four-barrelled treble-grip action, patent no. 213 of 1882, the rear trigger drawing the action to full cock, the front trigger firing the mechanism, removable striker discs (dot marked 1-4), Jones patent rotary underlever, carved fences, beaded border engraving, retaining slight traces of original colour-hardening, 15in. well-figured straight-hand stock with cheekpiece and steel buttplate (retaining some original blued finish), weight 9lb. 10oz.

Estimate £12,000-16,000



enjoy that!





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Re: revolving bore gun [Re: tinker]
      #119622 - 28/11/08 04:54 AM

There are also some interesting bolt guns in this auction.
It sickens me that Mausers with the thumb cutout cannot be imported to the US...insane!
416 Rigby lot#1114 (SB mag mauser too!)
404 Jeff lot#1143
350 Rigby lot#1147 (another SB mag mauser)

If the estimates are accurate, someone is going to walk away with a bargain!

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Re: revolving bore gun [Re: Huvius]
      #120712 - 09/12/08 01:41 PM

Ben,
that is not exactly correct. Mausers with stripper clip slots and thumb cut can not be imported, unless you can prove they were originally a commercial action. The square bridge guns should be a no brainer, as is anything carrying original commercial proof marks. It's a little understood law. I got this straight from the head of the imports branch. I can give you the number if you like.
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Re: revolving bore gun [Re: bouldersmith]
      #120724 - 09/12/08 04:01 PM

Yes, I learned that myself the other day from Holt's as well.
Square bridge mausers of all original types are exempt since none were military issue.
I am bidding on the Rigbys, but I suspect the estimates are way low - you never know though...

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Re: revolving bore gun [Re: Huvius]
      #258693 - 06/01/15 04:00 PM

My choice was a double 8-bore. Two shots, available, compared to a single 4-bore where the "gun bearer" carried the additional gun.

Some writers from those days considered the 8-bore adequate. With a 4-bore possibly contributing to physical harm to the shooter over time.

In the meantime before the mystical hidden 8-bore turns up, I will have to settle for my patheticly small 10-bore.

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Re: revolving bore gun [Re: fairyanna]
      #258696 - 06/01/15 06:45 PM

Tula in Russia makes such shotguns in 12, 20 & .410 bore as well.
http://kbptula.ru/index.php/en/productions/civil-production/hunting-arms/mts255
Lefteris

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Re: revolving bore gun [Re: elvas]
      #258721 - 07/01/15 03:21 PM

Whilst not the most attractive thing, I'd still like to own this revolving 12 bore. Anyone know how much it went for? EDIT: And did it have sights???

I'd love one of the tula's also, but doubt I'd be able to get it into aus.

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Edited by Ash (07/01/15 03:23 PM)

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Re: revolving bore gun [Re: Ash]
      #258738 - 07/01/15 05:14 PM

the interesting thing is the concept of a revolving guns is not dead but from time to time someone find it worth to try it

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