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DarylS
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Re: 12 Ga Round Ball advise. [Re: beleg2]
#184126 - 19/06/11 03:10 AM

Good point, Martin - I've never used a roll crimp, as I've noted - somewhere.

I've always used a folded or partically folded crimp.

The early 'punkin balls' shotshell loads of the 1920's through 1950's, used a .640" or .650" ball. They were VERY small, and I'm pretty sure, a rolled crimp was used. Even if the bal rode over the crimp, the wads would push it out, I suspect. I also suspect no damage would occur. The groosly undersided balls, coupled with them sitting on a hard card wad which allowed them to bounce down the bore, contributed to their misserable accuracy.

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Re: 12 Ga Round Ball advise. [Re: DarylS]
#205624 - 21/03/12 04:07 AM

I thought it would be good to resurect this thread again as spring is coming and shooting my 12 bores is on my mind.

I need to get the address for the roll crimp die maker from Alberta, from Smoke - if he sees this, please post it - again, smoke.

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Re: 12 Ga Round Ball advise. [Re: DarylS]
#205642 - 21/03/12 06:47 AM

Daryl,
If you can not find locally the roll crimping tool you are looking for, you may wish to purcase this one:
http://www.siarm.com/product_info.php?cPath=2_105_103_153_168&products_id=306
You will be rewarded with better than factory looking roll crimps.

Lefteris
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Re: 12 Ga Round Ball advise. [Re: elvas]
#205668 - 21/03/12 03:38 PM

Will is tops to deal with but when you get your roll crimper you'll be p.o'ed as once you have one you can spin one on a lathe in about twenty minutes. Worth the $40 the first time round though!

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Re: 12 Ga Round Ball advise. [Re: Smoke73]
#206455 - 03/04/12 09:07 PM

I have used the roll crimp with my round ball load in a rifled H&R single barrel with no problems. The ball load just straightens them out. I also use the roll crimp with the fosbury slugs in the same gun with no problems. The latter shoot into 2 1/2" at 50 yards.

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