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CHAPUISARMES
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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: nitro450exp]
#186146 - 20/07/11 12:04 PM

Your getting close to a superb finish, the design is different but is very attractive. Can't wait to see how she shoots.

Cheers,

Jeff Gray

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: CHAPUISARMES]
#186207 - 21/07/11 02:08 AM

Yes - little higher comb and lower heal, but looks like it will be a great shooter. Pretty nice!

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nitro450exp
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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: DarylS]
#187997 - 16/08/11 10:40 AM

Hello,

UPDATE 8/15

The action is polished.
He is making bracing so it does not warp during case colors.
Should go out for colors this week.

Polishing pics:

Standing breach before polishing, see file marks.

After polishing.

Enjoy Nitro

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"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall

45/70 DR / 12ga Paradox
470 NE DR
12 Bore DR
20 Bore DR
450 NE SR
577 NE SR

Edited by CptCurl (16/08/11 08:39 PM)

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DarylS
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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: nitro450exp]
#188020 - 17/08/11 01:34 AM

Nice job polishing the action - almost a shame to finish it darker. A Metaloy finish would have been striking, but not a 'hunting' finish. Would match stainless barrels, though - looks like French Grey.

Almost done - shooting will be soon, now.

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Daryl

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nitro450exp
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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: DarylS]
#189834 - 13/09/11 11:56 AM

UPDATE 9/10/11

Checkering is done.
Nice clean and sharp.

Nitro

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"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall

45/70 DR / 12ga Paradox
470 NE DR
12 Bore DR
20 Bore DR
450 NE SR
577 NE SR

Edited by CptCurl (26/11/11 12:01 AM)

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DarylS
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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: nitro450exp]
#189837 - 13/09/11 01:21 PM

NICE!

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nitro450exp
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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: DarylS]
#190352 - 21/09/11 11:05 AM

UPDATE 09/19/11

Well the chamber reamer showed up.
The smith tried to hand ream, but reamer would not quit chattering.
So one elaborate set up later and a bunch of customizing, here it is.
The chamber that is not the gun.

The machine.

The set up.

Just starting to make the cut.

Almost done.

Hope the reciever will be cased and back by the 24th.

Nitro

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"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall

45/70 DR / 12ga Paradox
470 NE DR
12 Bore DR
20 Bore DR
450 NE SR
577 NE SR

Edited by CptCurl (26/11/11 12:04 AM)

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DarylS
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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: nitro450exp]
#190415 - 22/09/11 03:16 AM

almost THERE!

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: DarylS]
#191688 - 12/10/11 01:51 PM

UPDATE 10/11/11

Well the action is back from case colours and engraving.
It has been assembled and final wood fitting has been done.
Next is to put barrels on face and proof.

This is the polished action with duck.

This is the colors and engraving.

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CHAPUISARMES
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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: nitro450exp]
#191689 - 12/10/11 01:58 PM

Looking Good, Almost there. Should be able to be shot for Christmas maybe even to get the Christmas Turkey??

Cheers,

Jeff Gray

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: CHAPUISARMES]
#191774 - 14/10/11 12:32 AM

Very nice !!!! I really like the case colors .
Robert

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: bwanabobftw]
#191776 - 14/10/11 01:16 AM

I really like the 'newer' dark case colours as well. They seem to have more deep blues.

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: DarylS]
#192069 - 18/10/11 05:36 PM

Update 10/17/11

Action is on face .
Will attach pictures tonight.

Nitro.

Blacked action.

Fitted and polished breech.

Final fit on action.

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"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall

45/70 DR / 12ga Paradox
470 NE DR
12 Bore DR
20 Bore DR
450 NE SR
577 NE SR

Edited by CptCurl (26/11/11 12:13 AM)

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: nitro450exp]
#192127 - 19/10/11 01:52 PM

It looks like you will have gotten a great deal of value out of this experience.
I can't wait to see the final product.

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Tinker

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: tinker]
#192131 - 19/10/11 03:34 PM

very nice fitting!

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: kamilaroi]
#192446 - 25/10/11 03:56 AM

Update 11/24/11

Well good news, initial firing and regulation is complete.

Full side view.

Close up of the scope and action.

Nitrile blued internals and screws.

Assembled action.

1st shooting , no regulation , crossing at 50.

After 3rd. Adjustment, not bad.

Need to pick ammo I want it regulated for and finalize the regulation.

Nitro

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"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall

45/70 DR / 12ga Paradox
470 NE DR
12 Bore DR
20 Bore DR
450 NE SR
577 NE SR

Edited by CptCurl (26/11/11 12:18 AM)

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DarylS
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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: nitro450exp]
#192449 - 25/10/11 05:29 AM

Looking good so far, Nitro.

I'd like to see a group comprised of 3 lefts and 3 rights. They'll only be 3 shot groups from each barrel, but will show better how the barrels and loads are actually doing.

With a 6 shot group, you'll be able to see how it regulates with that load by measuring the distance between the each barrel's group centre, compared to the measurement of each barrel's axis to each other.

Even coming together into a single group at 50yards is not bad. At 100yards, the group centres will only be an inch or so apart - probably easily useable to a good 150yards - depending on the ammo's capability.

That is a good looking gun.

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: DarylS]
#192451 - 25/10/11 06:02 AM

What are you "adjusting" for the regulation? (other than loads)

I'm planning/contemplating a ML DR build in the near future and I'm curious.

Edited by Supercracker (25/10/11 06:02 AM)

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: DarylS]
#192452 - 25/10/11 06:06 AM

Daryl

15 boxes of ammo in the mail as I type.
With 75 rounds we should be able to get things dialed in.
Goal is parallel at 50 yds which should be good out to 150.
Anything over 100 is pushing it for a 1 oz slug at 1600 fps, in my opinion

Nitro

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"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall

45/70 DR / 12ga Paradox
470 NE DR
12 Bore DR
20 Bore DR
450 NE SR
577 NE SR

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: nitro450exp]
#192454 - 25/10/11 06:12 AM

Adjusting means rejoining the barrels and moving the regulation wedge.
As in the traditional way of regulating a double rifle.
Not cheap or quick or easy but correct.

Nitro

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"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall

45/70 DR / 12ga Paradox
470 NE DR
12 Bore DR
20 Bore DR
450 NE SR
577 NE SR

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: nitro450exp]
#192458 - 25/10/11 07:53 AM

ohh, I did'nt think you were still at that stage.

Thanks

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: Supercracker]
#193285 - 08/11/11 01:31 AM

Update 11/07/11

Latest regulation Target.
Getting close.

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: nitro450exp]
#193292 - 08/11/11 03:05 AM

Yes - very close - if repeatable, that would be good enough for me. I agree with the restricted range of factory slugs. Their poor aerodynamic properties really hurt longer range performance.

I'd place the max range on deer/blackbear at 200 and 150 on moose or elk, given a good round ball load at around 1,850fps to 1,900fps.

I do understand your desire not to load, though, nice to pickup a box of ammo and go.

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: DarylS]
#193318 - 08/11/11 12:24 PM

Daryl

Yes you are correct, the smith is going to reconfirm the regulation again and then again after bluing.
I am also going to try a few other types of ammo.

I will do some reloading for this gun, I am waiting for rocky mountain cartridge to place an order for brass.
I do want to be able to grab a box and go as you say.
But half of the fun is load development , I have several bullets already in stock.

Nitro.

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"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall

45/70 DR / 12ga Paradox
470 NE DR
12 Bore DR
20 Bore DR
450 NE SR
577 NE SR

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Re: 20 ga DR build progress. [Re: nitro450exp]
#194189 - 20/11/11 01:05 PM

Update 11/17/11

Hello,

Well the trip was good.
We made several adjustments, but shooting conditions weren't great.
Snow wind and cold temps.

Here is the shooting setup.

This was one of the targets, but not the final.
We ran out of time daylight and ammo.

I need to get to my range and do some checks from a steady rest, with no wind.

Will post final results.

Nitro

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"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall

45/70 DR / 12ga Paradox
470 NE DR
12 Bore DR
20 Bore DR
450 NE SR
577 NE SR

Edited by CptCurl (26/11/11 12:23 AM)

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