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First Pheasant hunt for Kate -and for the season
      #196065 - 08/12/11 05:00 AM

Took my pup out for her first "real" pheasant hunt of the season..she is 1 1/2 years old..German Wire-hair...lots of birds..and pretty cold..minus 9 on Monday morning ..plus a 15 mile an hour wind..made it a bit chilly..

Had a great time and was able to hunt with an old friend of mine..he is 77, he walked about 2 hours yesterday and got his limt as well...heck of a guy..

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Re: First Pheasant hunt for Kate -and for the season [Re: Ripp]
      #196078 - 08/12/11 07:54 AM

What a great post.

Great company, good shooting and a productive day to-boot.

And kudos to the fellow who doesn't let trouble stop him from doing what he loves!!! I have high respect for that.

Thanks for a great uplifting thread!

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Re: First Pheasant hunt for Kate -and for the season [Re: 9.3x57]
      #196145 - 09/12/11 01:47 AM

Thanks Rod...

He really is an amazing man...have known him for 20 years ...has lead quite a life...

Hope all is well with you and your family..

Merry Christmas...and a fantastic New Year ...

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Re: First Pheasant hunt for Kate -and for the season [Re: Ripp]
      #196151 - 09/12/11 02:40 AM

Always good to be out with one's dog. And looks like you had some good shooting too.

Wonderful to go out hunting with friends too.

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Re: First Pheasant hunt for Kate -and for the season [Re: NitroX]
      #196159 - 09/12/11 03:25 AM

John
Agree totally...and it was a real surprise as the area we hunted had a very severe winter last year so we were told the numbers were way down...not so really...saw as many birds as ever...and lots of hens which, provided the winter isnt too bad, should make for an even better season next year..

Take care

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Re: First Pheasant hunt for Kate -and for the season [Re: Ripp]
      #196162 - 09/12/11 03:35 AM


Good stuff and great photos.

good to see him out there as well getting his bag and not being hindered at all.

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Re: First Pheasant hunt for Kate -and for the season [Re: 500Nitro]
      #196173 - 09/12/11 05:24 AM

A GREAT day, in many ways. Congratulations, Ripp.

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Re: First Pheasant hunt for Kate -and for the season [Re: DarylS]
      #196219 - 09/12/11 06:39 PM

Great hunt with a new friend and an old friend.

No need to rush them to the cooler with all that ice.

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Re: First Pheasant hunt for Kate -and for the season [Re: FATBOY404]
      #197362 - 21/12/11 02:37 AM

Went out again to the same area this weekend... was just as good as last time...Kate is really catching on to this thing..she worked really really well as you can see..





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Re: First Pheasant hunt for Kate -and for the season [Re: Ripp]
      #197374 - 21/12/11 07:14 AM

A good day out in the field with one`s dog is a real pleasure in life.
Any info on guns used etc Ripp and shot size used(steel?)I ask as we dont have much of a clue as to shot laws in your state.

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Re: First Pheasant hunt for Kate -and for the season [Re: gryphon]
      #197377 - 21/12/11 07:34 AM

Quote:

A good day out in the field with one`s dog is a real pleasure in life.
Any info on guns used etc Ripp and shot size used(steel?)I ask as we dont have much of a clue as to shot laws in your state.




Thank you--
One friend was using a 12 gauge Benelli semi-auto with 6 shot..the other was using a Benelli semi-auto 20 gauge with 6 shot and I was using a double 16 gauge Fox Sterlingworth using 5 and 6 shot..all of us were shooting lead...where we were hunting we don't have to use steel as it was not in a waterfowl area...

Normally I use a 20 gauge --either a Browning o/u or my Merkel s/s---but have not had a chance to use the 16 since I had bought it used a year ago...its in really nice condition and about 77 years old per the serial number..pretty much anything will work shooting over a pointer as shots tend to be fairly close..but this time of year when it gets colder and if the wind is blowing..they don't hold very well and shots tend to be a bit longer..so I like to use max loads in the shot size I am shooting..that, and the pheasants have their winter feathers so they can take a hit better..

Take care.. and hope this helps..

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Re: First Pheasant hunt for Kate -and for the season [Re: gryphon]
      #197378 - 21/12/11 07:34 AM

Very nice Ripp.

Kate is doing well.

Does she "flush" them for you to shoot or just retrieve them ?.

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Re: First Pheasant hunt for Kate -and for the season [Re: FATBOY404]
      #197533 - 22/12/11 12:36 PM

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Very nice Ripp.

Kate is doing well.

Does she "flush" them for you to shoot or just retrieve them ?.






Kate is a German Wirehair..so she points them for me..after the shot she watches where the land, provided I hit them of course ...and upon my command of "fetch" she gets after it and retrieves them to me..she is trained not to run at the shot so she herself doesnt get shot in all the excitement..

I do agree..she is doing really well..thank you

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Re: First Pheasant hunt for Kate -and for the season [Re: Ripp]
      #197537 - 22/12/11 01:39 PM

There are threads that are funny, interesting, educating, fascinating.

This one takes the cake for uplifting.

Really, there is a relaxation in bird shooting that isn't met in big game hunting in my experience, and this thread is just plain uplifting. Thanks for posting the story and the pix. Great stuff.

Gem of a Drahthaar, too!

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Re: First Pheasant hunt for Kate -and for the season [Re: 9.3x57]
      #197557 - 22/12/11 05:00 PM

Thanks Ripp and of course enjoy your dog while you can...only yesterday I had to shoot one of my bitches. She staked herself through the chest and foreleg resulting in massive damage.
There was nothing really anyone could do.She was a happy and good bitch.

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Re: First Pheasant hunt for Kate -and for the season [Re: gryphon]
      #197595 - 23/12/11 05:40 AM

That really sucks to have to do that..had to put down my first wirehair at 3 years old--got a twisted intestine..$2000 in vet bills and still didnt work..not a fun thing to do at all..think of him everytime I bird hunt...

BUT, Life is for the living..onward and upward and enjoy what we can when we can..

Merry Christmas...

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Re: First Pheasant hunt for Kate -and for the season [Re: Ripp]
      #197599 - 23/12/11 06:03 AM

So true.
Sorry to hear that Gryphon.

I have always had dogs and they are a big part of my life.
My mates joked about my dogs being at my wedding.

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Re: First Pheasant hunt for Kate -and for the season [Re: FATBOY404]
      #198102 - 30/12/11 08:05 AM


Thoughts...
was sent to me by a friend...
Ripp



"The gray in my friend's face is a painful happiness sustained through the day and paid for tomorrow. There is a constant thought struggle, as partners, to stay home and die, or to go amongst them and live. Together, we withstand the pain after, and promise ourselves next time to stay....but we are drawn to life, no matter how painful, for it pierces our soul with wind and sun."

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Re: First Pheasant hunt for Kate -and for the season [Re: Ripp]
      #198273 - 01/01/12 04:32 AM

Thanks for posting the photos and stories. Have a Happy New Year.

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Re: First Pheasant hunt for Kate -and for the season [Re: mikeh416Rigby]
      #198280 - 01/01/12 04:57 AM

Quote:

Thanks for posting the photos and stories. Have a Happy New Year.




And you as well..

All the best for 2012...

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Re: First Pheasant hunt for Kate -and for the season [Re: gryphon]
      #198321 - 01/01/12 03:04 PM

Quote:

Thanks Ripp and of course enjoy your dog while you can...only yesterday I had to shoot one of my bitches. She staked herself through the chest and foreleg resulting in massive damage.
There was nothing really anyone could do.She was a happy and good bitch.




Sad to hear.

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Re: First Pheasant hunt for Kate -and for the season [Re: Ripp]
      #198328 - 01/01/12 03:33 PM

Back in the 60s and 70s, pheasants were extremely plentiful around here. Since then, I sometimes go a couple of years before seeing one. Today, if one wants quality pheasant hunting, they have to go to a game farm where they're raised, and then released the morning of your hunt. I'm glad to see that there are still places left where wild birds are still available, and plentiful.

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Re: First Pheasant hunt for Kate -and for the season [Re: mikeh416Rigby]
      #198389 - 02/01/12 04:01 AM

you need to go to North or South Dakota--seriously you will see hundreds per day..incredible..they had a hard winter last year so populations are reportedly down by as much as 40%..but really...so hyou have to walk and extra hour to get your 3 bird limit..oh well...

Montana had a really severe winter last year as well and some parts really lost a lot of game..however we found areas that were not affected at all...and were literally seeing over a 100 per day...plus lots of hens which bodes well for next year's hatch provided the weather complies

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Re: First Pheasant hunt for Kate -and for the season [Re: Ripp]
      #198416 - 02/01/12 11:23 AM

If the wolves push the coyotes out, yet work mostly on elk, moose and deer themselves, the pheasants will flousish even more without the reduced coyote threat. Unfortunately, that is not all good news as the big game #'s suffer.

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Re: First Pheasant hunt for Kate -and for the season [Re: Ripp]
      #198420 - 02/01/12 12:54 PM

So you shoot only cocks?

Also are pheasant an introduced species? I thought that species of pheasant originated in China?

I guess predators don't affect them as much? Here foxes, cats, crows, hawks and eagles seem to kill off any released birds that survive not being shot. (had not refreshed the thread so didn't see Daryl's post re coyotes).

Great to have so many wild birds for sport.

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Re: First Pheasant hunt for Kate -and for the season [Re: NitroX]
      #198501 - 03/01/12 03:54 AM

Quote:

So you shoot only cocks?

Also are pheasant an introduced species? I thought that species of pheasant originated in China?

I guess predators don't affect them as much? Here foxes, cats, crows, hawks and eagles seem to kill off any released birds that survive not being shot. (had not refreshed the thread so didn't see Daryl's post re coyotes).

Great to have so many wild birds for sport.




1. Yes --here it is law that you can only shoot 3 roosters per day...and can never shoot hens...
2. Yes--pheasants were introduced I believe back in the mid- 1850's or so ..but now flourish over many many states..
3. Hawks, owls and other predators take their toll, but the populations can typically withstand and still flourish provided the habitat it there ...

I used to actually raise about 200 per year and let them go in the wild around my home in N Dakota..what seemed to really make the difference for their survival on the released birds was 2 fold..1. when the CRP program was introduced which paid farmers to leave highly erodible soil idle or seed it to grass..2. when I would keep the pheasants over the winter and release them in the spring..they would then raise a hatch that actually grew up in the wild --really seemed to make a difference..I still let some go in the summer as well as the older ones in the spring...

In addition, I also had agreements with several farmers in the area over about a 20 mile circumference that had really good habitat for pheasants....and would release pheasants in those areas year after year for a 5 year period with no hunting allowed as well until they became established...was amazing how they started to be noticed everywhere once they took hold...

Thanks

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Re: First Pheasant hunt for Kate -and for the season [Re: Ripp]
      #198504 - 03/01/12 04:43 AM

Pheasant History...

http://www.ultimatepheasanthunting.com/info/pheasant-history/


Pheasant History
The Ringed-necked Pheasant was imported to America from Asia, and no other game species introduced to this continent has been as successful at flourishing as the pheasant. One of more than 40 species originating in Asia and Asia Minor, these birds from the genus Phasianus are perhaps better known than any of the other 15 groups of pheasants in the world. All are related to the partridges, quails, grouse and guinea-fowls which make up the order Galliformes or chicken-like birds.

Archeological evidence suggests that large pheasants lived in southern France in the Miocene period, some 13 million years ago. The Greeks knew the bird in the 10th Century B.C. and we have adopted their name for the species, Phasianus ornis (phasian bird), derived from the Phasis River (now Rion) near the Caucasus Mountains. The Chinese knew the pheasant some 3,000 years ago, but the Romans are considered responsible for the spread of pheasants in western Europe. When Julius Caesar invaded England in the first century B.C., the pheasant followed.

It wasn't until 1733 that the pheasant appeared in North America, when several pairs of the black-necked strain were introduced in New York. Other pheasant varieties were released in New Hampshire and New Jersey later in the 18th century. Not until 1881, when Judge O.N. Denny released some 100 pairs of Chinese ring-necks in the Willamette Valley of Oregon, did the pheasant really gain a foothold in the United States. Since then, pheasants have been propagated and released by government agencies, clubs and individuals, and for all practical purposes are established everywhere on the continent that suitable habitat exists.

It was introduced to South Dakota in 1898 and is easily recognized by its colorful plumage. It is also known for its delicious meat. Since it is primarily a Midwestern bird, pheasant is considered a delicacy in many other states. Populations in North America are now well established in areas containing farmlands and native grasslands and have "replaced" prairie chickens in much of the Midwest. Huntable pheasant populations can be found in Oklahoma, Missouri, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Iowa, Kansas, California, Utah, Montana, Wyoming, and many other states.

Pheasants require weedy fence rows, ditch banks or brushy woods for escape cover. Pheasant populations struggled in the U.S. during the 1960's and 1970's due to a lack of required cover as a result of agricultural practices.

Pheasant populations have benefitted enormously from the Conservation Reserve Program in the U.S.. CRP involves the planting of vast acres of native grasses by farmers in agricultural areas. CRP benefits many species of wildlife including upland birds, waterfowl and deer. Government agencies continue to struggle over the issue of the CRP program's future here in the U.S. Efforts of hunter groups like Pheasants Forever have succeeded in ensuring the program's success, at least in the short term.

Many hunting strategies are successful for pheasant and both pointing dogs and flushing dogs are widely used. As many a pheasant hunter will attest, these birds are very crafty and successfully outsmart even the most experienced hunters and dogs on a regular basis. Pheasants love to run and will do so even in the slightest amount of cover. Every effort should be made to get to a downed bird as soon as possible, as it only takes a few seconds for a cripple to cross the nearest county line.

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